I do not want to take a job where it's the bait and switch. Tired of that game.
Posted By: Can you email me with specifics on 2006-05-27
In Reply to: They offshore. They don't pay very well. - me
If you could email me that would be great. This profession is going down hill fast. You get a ton of job offers but no one wants to pay you anything. I wouldnt have a problem with some of the wages, IF Iived in India.. or somewhere else that the cost of living is lower, but unfortunately when you live in America, we need American-ized wages.
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Sound mediocre - bait and switch game with them thought. nm
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Bait and switch
Was hired for a gross line account (this was put in writing), and then shortly after hiring was switched to a regular line account. When I did the math, I found I was losing. I contacted them, showed them the math, and the response was unfriendly, to say the least. When I was there, the QA staff were the absolute rudest I've ever encountered, also (and I work in QA now).
Unless they did some major housecleaning of their nasty QA staff and quit their bait-and-switch gross line tactics, I would stay away from this company.
They must bait and switch because...
Their ad says pay is 8-10 cpl for straight typing and 4-5 cpl for editing which is pretty normal for Escription, but as I stated above, you could get paid 15 cpl but if your not really getting paid, then it means nothing. I hope no one goes to work for and supports companies who do not pay their employees. What a disgrace. I am pretty sure the owner and/or managers are not going without pay.
Switch and bait????
You do not have to have WP5.1 to work for WRU, you just have to know how to convert files from Word Perfect. I do not switch and bait anything. It is straightforward, and you have to know what you are doing to understand it. It isn't difficult when you understand directions.
Bait and switch
Has anyone else noticed that MTs are being hired and promised, say 100% radiology, then suddenly radiology isn't ready yet so they need you to do acute care (which you *can* do but not so well). And then you never really ever do get moved to the promised specialty?
Or been hired for a new account coming on that never seems to materialize and then you are one among 30 new MTs sharing the work that the prior MTs were covering just fine, so NO ONE is getting a livable wage?
I think bait and switch has become the new incentive for recruiters. Promise them anything, give them nothing like it. And they wonder why people want OUT of MT!
Bait and switch
I have to agree with the other poster who said no matter what you are offered now, it will change and not to your advantage. That's how they lure you in. And yes, they do a huge amount of offshoring.
BAIT AND SWITCH?
Here's the scenario: A company posts here at mtstars that help is needed immediately for a daytime account with no set hours, paying higher than most. I submit my resume. About 2 weeks later, I receive testing materials via email, which I complete and return within 24 hours. Two weeks after that, I email with a query as to the status of my application. Yet another 2 weeks later, the company responds to my email with we're working on it. Yet another 2 weeks later, I am offered a phone interview. I'm wondering what might have happened to that account that needed immediate help? To prepare for the interview, I go over questions and answers in my mind, and wonder what to say when I am told that the previous position is filled or whatever. Am I totally out of line to ask what took them so long to get back to me? Or, might I ask if someone else started that position and already resigned and, if so, why?
Am I a fool to continue to communicate any further with this company?
TIA.
The old bait and switch ....
currently happening at my current company. I can't name the company here because the CEO threatens legal action if we say anything about it. It has always received high praise here and everywhere else but now that they are practically forcing everyone to speech and cutting pay to lower than what was told previously I am moving on as soon as I find another job that pays me what I am quoted. I feel your pain.
Bait and switch, but need this job!!
I tested for a company and jumped through hoops to take their many tests. I had to take a 3 hour grammar, spelling, verb, etc test. Then, I had to take a transcription test and then interview with the owner, manager and team lead. I got the call yesterday with an employment offer, in which I accepted. Then, when I received my offer via email this morning, it stated that per our discussion, your account will be all ESLs. I am mortified. All ESLs were never discussed and I accepted verbally. I am scared to death because I really need this job. Should I keep looking?
bait and switch on QAs
Your post really hit me. I am an experienced QA Editor and have had the EXACT same experience. My resume is on here for specifically QA work and they still call me and stall before telling me they really want an MT. I was even hired once for a postion that didnt exist! I am about ready to get out of this business. There is a lot of dishonesty and abuse in it.
Typical bait and switch
They are nice in the beginning, then you get lost in their shuffle. You get mass e-mails that maybe do not even apply to accounts you work on - to the tune of sometimes a half dozen or so per day - that you are told to read NOW, before you start typing. Trying to get an answer to a specific question is like trying to reach the president himself. They tell you the accounts are good, then you get put on pure garbage accounts where you will struggle to make your line counts.
The thing is, a few years ago when I began with them they were great. It seems as they have expanded, chaos has taken over. I am currently looking elsewhere. Others have already left. Notice how they are always hiring now?!
bait and switch tactics
in addition to all negative reports from other posters. I would say don't, unless you can afford to gamble that all the posters were indeed crackpots as the recruiter will tell you. Good luck whatever choice you make.
Bait and switch happened to me too
I was promised everything that I wanted and was given an account where it was impossible to make any money - what a waste of my time. Only when I gave my notice did they promise what they started in the beginning but TOO LATE. Bye bye liars.
It's on this page under BAIT AND SWITCH
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Bait 'n' switch is ILLEGAL ---
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How do you spell Bait and Switch?
Sorry, but that was my experience. I don't like to give negative feedback on things, but like E-bay you have to be honest about your experience. I ran out of money and patience so I just ran and never looked back. Hope your experience is different. Oh, and forget the sign on bonus. You have to be full-time pay in 3 months and 6 months and for some unknown reason (sarcasm), a person may just always be short of that.
Ditto!!! I have experienced bait and switch
more times than I can count. I have spend hundreds of dollars on equipment and software only to start work for someone and have them act like they never heard of me. They tried to give me work that I don't do, change my hours, and even change the pay promised. Be very careful out there.
FOCUS! Run the other way-bait and switch experts!
Was interviewed by American, tested with same, was offered job by same and took job. Then, suddenly everyone else was East Asian! After specifically asking for no more than 40 to 50% ESL doctors, first job is all ESL! When I called to ask questions of the American people who hired me (such as what the instructions actually meant as they made no sense in American English, and why all the Drs were ESL) I was told that almost all of this type of doctor was ESL and I should have known this with all my experience! With all my experience I know that only a portion of the physicians who perform the type of medicine I was discussing are ESL. So, I quit before I began!!! Can you say Bait and Switch?
I had a terrible experience with them with bait and switch.
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I am assuming that the Bait and Switch tactic
people smell the coffee and leave. That is just IMHO. Of course, if you don't make that great sign on bonus, and you decide to stay for making about 300.00 a week is your thing, then go for it.
Sick of it too. Bait and switch, always happens. Will look at my contract closer too. nm
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MTSO bait and switch when hiring QA staff
I have applied to several companies for QA positions in the last few weeks. I tested for about 5 and received offers from 3. I accepted 2 of these positions.
Job #1: Told me that pay was hourly and that I would not have to do any typing. I signed paperwork and completed the 1 hour training. Was told again during training that pay was hourly. As soon as training was over I was told that I would have to type on the account first and would be paid by the line for what I typed...NOT HOURLY.
Job #2: Told me that they will pay by the line for QA and that no typing was required. As soon as I finished the 1 hour training I was told that I would have to type on the account first and would be paid by the line.
WHY DO MTSOs do this???? Why not tell the truth up front? I resigned from my original position to take these jobs. Had I been told UP FRONT that I would have to be a Transcriptionist before becoming QA I would have remained where I was and would not have accepted either position.
I have carpal tunnel issues which is why I am not a transcriptionist anymore. I DETEST LIARS AND DECEPTIVE RECRUITERS.
MTSOs, PLEASE STOP THE BAITING AND SWITCHING!!! Please be honest with people that you make them an offer!!
MTSO Hiring Bait and Switch (sorry- long)
There's a posting on one of the other forums here and it sounds similar to mine, and I just wondered if I'm having a grassy knoll moment or if it's just coinkidink.
I, in addition to 2 other people, was recently (in the last 4-6 weeks) hired IC to do M-F 9-5 clinic work in a specialty that I have years of experience in. Within the 2nd day, I was making my line counts because of the ability to short-cut the heck out of the very repetitive nature of the specialty and the doctors. At the time I discussed with the recruiter that based on my prior experience, 3 people seemed overkill for this type of account, but that was tut-tutted. Okay...they know the hospital this clinic is affiliated with, not me. Within 1-1/2 weeks, the 6 week old backup was gone. A week later, about 21 jobs came in. Two weeks go by, 17 jobs. Nothing since. Last I heard mid July, there were some technical issues and the account should be up in August. Well, here we are the 5th, nothing.
Needless to say, I've had to request a secondary account, which as it happens is acute care. At the time I talked to the recruiter, she quoted me a 0.5 cpl difference between clinic and acute care. I have not been getting, despite invoices including the extra 0.5. I sent an email off to the powers that be, and was rewarded with a phone call saying fine, but from now on my primary would be the acute care, that my hours would no longer be able to be 9-5, and that M-F is also out the window as acute care doesn't work that way. When I inquired about the status of the clinic, the response was they didn't really know what was going on, but it likely wouldn't be enough work to keep the 3 of us in lines anyway (going on to state that it's our fault a ICs since we can't be counted on to work when we're supposed to as much as we're supposed to). I said okay at the time since I don't work because I want to but because I have to, but needless to say I'm searching again.
So to summarize, I'm an older, single, empty-nester and looked forward to easy lines with little or no brain power required and the freedom for a social life who thought she had stumbled onto the ideal job- perfect shift, perfect days, easy account with great lines, only to find it has vanished, and I'm back to working weekends and into the evening on an account that while not overly difficult is not the joyfully mindless line-accumulating stuff I was looking forward to. Is this common, or do I just have the world's worst luck?
Bait and switch and rudeness puts them at the bottom of mine. nm
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Bait and switch? Hard dictators? Easy accounts?
Lets be reasonable here.
I see complaints because we get put on a difficult account when you know there are easier ones out there. I see complaints because when you start working for a new company you are put on an easy account and then switched to a more difficult account.
Face it. Every company has hard accounts along with the easier accounts. What should these companies do? Start you out on the worst accounts so you cannot possibly get your line counts when you are starting and as nervous as a shaky leaf? Start you on an easy account until you lose your fear and have passed QA to ensure you know the basics of transcription? (That is what you are calling bait and switch.)
I just do not think these companies can win. They certainly cannot meet your demands of easy accounts, especially those who are just starting for them and think you should get the cream of the crop. Are they supposed to penalize their long term MLS and give them all the hard work just to accommodate your every wish? Is this how you would want to be treated if you had worked for a company for 5+ years? I don't think so.
I'm tired of doing all ops. If I switch to a mixture of
I know it's usually the other way with people fighting for ops, but I'm very bored with them after almost 15 years, and look forward to it when H&Ps, consults or even DS's pop up, but it's not consistent enough to tell if my production would take a dive. Anyone else been through this?
tired, tired, tired of all the tech
problems with these platforms. I just want to work on an old fashioned program, like WP5.1 or Medrite, maybe with voice wave. Too many problems. Does anybody know any companies that use something like these. Just call me a dinosaur lover.
look, it is all the name of the game
So, if I happen to be a favorite where I work because I am a high producer, I should not benefit from that? I should not benefit from that because another MT who is not a high producer does not get the same treatment as me? So, you are saying that it's unfair treatment to that MT. Well, I think it's unfair treatment of high producers! We are the ones that produced those lines. No one came and helped us type. We are the ones that sacrificed our personal time to put more into our job. We are the ones that sat up late at night while others were getting a good night's rest. We are more often than not the ones that work the overtime and help out on many, many accounts at a moments notice, practially being on call. So, I think that you get what you deserve. If you give normal, average, you get normal, average.
I am tired of being treated unfairly because I work longer/harder than some and reap some benefit from that. I deserve it. If you want it, put forth the same effort. We all have the chance to become high producers or favorites at our companies. It is just a matter of personal choice if you want to be one or not.
name game
I have it at the tip of my tongue but it may get removed if posted.
Fun with the game
Mighty Deadly Institution
The name of the game is NEGOTIATE your SM
pay. There is at least 1 person below who is upset because he/she doesn't get the same rate the OP gets. Question--did you just accept the line rate offered or did you attempt to negotiate it? More often than not, the MT is offered a line rate and just says okay and it doesn't have to be that way.
If you have years of experience with 98% quality or better, high-level acute care work (not just rural hospital gallbladder/appendix type stuff) and are willing to work the off shifts you can hold up each of those items and all of them as a whole to leverage yourself into a higher per-line rate right from the start.
It may only be that the MT next to you is making more per line because they did a better job of negotiating the rate.
It's all a numbers game.
When we lived in NYC it sounded like we made a lot of money but we lived the same as we did in Pittsburgh. The numbers are different, but they're all relative.
$400,000 for a house, you make $200,000 a year.
$200,000 for a house, you make $100,000 a year.
Just depends on where you live. You might make more money elsewhere numbers-wise but the standard of living is still the same if you have the same job and educational background.
Downsizing is the name of the game
I would stay away unless you want to work your fingers to the bone, be monitored on how many minutes you clock in, and appreciate little or no respect for the work you do.
SHOULD HAVE BEAT THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME...SM
Sounded like a backstabbing, dirty trick to play. But if you had known (and the NEXT time they ask you for a list of worst dictators) you will know what to do...thanks for the tip for the rest of us: Just do a turnabout and give them a list of your BEST one...they'll send the worst to India!!! Kind of like switching drinks with someone who's spiking your drink when they're not looking (LOL)
Thanks for playing our game!
And all you get is this lousy :) icon
hee hee
Competition is the Name of the Game!
What we have always seen happen within the U.S. between U.S. workers in the job market , competition , is expanding to the global marketplace. U.S. workers now not only have to compete with each other in the arena of marketable skills , they must also compete with those in other countries who not only possess the same marketable skills , but do so at lower prices. Naturally , a company which can get the same production out of a worker for a smaller price is going to choose that worker, as the savings in labor costs will increase the bottom line.We lost our manufacturing base on just this scenario...a fatal blow to the soundness of our economy , IMO. That left us with a service sector base , which is also facing the same threat , with the likelihood of the same result , suffered by our manufacturing base.
One solution is as Obama has suggested. The feds take away any tax breaks companies which outsource get to the deteriment of U.S. workers. Will the U.S. government do something like that? I doubt it. Look at what is happening right now over the issue of illegal immigration into the U.S. We were attacked on 9/11 ; drugs and criminal are being brought across our borders ; our law enforcement officials and citizens are under attack ON OUR OWN SOIL from those coming across the border ; and in the economic arena , companies are hiring illegals and undercutting U.S. workers' wages.
The People have demanded the border be secured and the Congress passed a bill calling for U.S. border security. But , what has actually been done? NOTHING!!! Why? Because the feds don't want to secure the borders. If they did , the borders would be secured , or at least a serious attempt would have been made. So , why haven't they secured the border? Because U.S. companies want to employ illegals and pay them lower wages , thus increasing company profits. The dirty little secret , that isn't really a secret , is that our legislators and president are all about serving their masters...and that isn't We the People ; that is the corporate and banking classes who fund their campaigns and give them lucrative positions in their compamies when they leave office.
So , unfortunately there it is.
Then instead of playing their game, just come out
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band together, are you game?
To all my fellow MDI'ers, I think it is time to tighten up the bootstraps and starting thinking out of the box. Let's get together in private, put our thinking caps on, combine resources, and see what we can do for ourselves and each other. Every email will be confidential... we still have our integrity! Write to AmericanMT@yahoo.com
Well, they have turned into a game...
It's like survival of the fittest, pitting us against each other to get to the work first so we can make our lines, and it's ridiculous. Of course, they're shining like a new penny at the nonexistent TAT because we all dive as soon as a report pops up, but it's NO WAY for a person to have to make a living.
This is why I left on September 1st. First, I do not care to work for Transcend (mini-Q, IMO) and, second, I do not care for their tactics the past few months that have turned us all into blood-thirsty scavengers desperately trying to make ends meet.
And turning it into a battle royale for all MTs cross-trained on all accounts fighting for whatever scraps they deem fit to feed us?
Nope, life's too short and my skills far too valuable for THAT, the ultimate MTSO game-playing orchestration.
I left, now have a great gig FT with a great MTSO who has ample work.
I am a human being, not a catfish, and I refuse to bottom feed like some subhuman entity.
We ALL dserve better than that, IMO.
Somebody took the bait
because I just got an email stating the position had been filled and they would keep my resume on file.
How ironic!! Game just ended. Sox won.
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It all boils down to who will play the game
There have been a lot of good MTs at OSI. Most of those who do excellent work and have years of experience have left OSi because of tactics such as this. She may have a good work ethic and sunny disposition and do good work but is not in a better position to supervise other MTs who are better all around. The point is that people new to either the MT industry or to OSI are most often the ones promoted because they are most assuredly YES people since they don't have enough experience to know any better that OSI consistently does things such as break the wage and hour law among other things.
Can't play the game unless you have the equipment.
join forces, anyone game?
To all my fellow MDI'ers, I think it is time to tighten up the bootstraps and starting thinking out of the box. Let's get together in private, put our thinking caps on, combine resources, and see what we can do for ourselves and each other. Every email will be confidential... we still have our integrity! Write to AmericanMT@yahoo.com
the circle game of resumes and ads
Same old ads, same old resumes. Nothing is going to change, people. We are stuck with each other.
Happy Labor Day. Or should I say Groundhog Day? If you catch my drift.....
GO ASTROS ! WIN GAME 3 ! WIN WORLD SERIES !!!! n/m
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If there are any psychics, I could use the lottery numbers for the Big Game please :) nm
Good night everyone.
I SO agree. Loved the little tribute toward the end of the game :-) NM
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Who will lead? I'm game and I will follow loudly. anyone else?
Our anger and disappointment at D's choice is bringing out what has need to be brought out LONG AGO. Our pay stagnated long ago, even those of us with 25 and 30 years plus experience. If someone has the gumption to get this news out, I will fully lend my support and voice. Please contact me off line. We can do something. Though we may feel like victims and even in some sense be victims (of our own trusting natures?), we do not have to act like victims. We do have power. Okay - anyone else
This is obviously a bait post. I am not biting
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To clarify I get around their game & count my own too - ichart is short!
Tired of being ripped off
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