I agree with you about the way substandard schools
Posted By: == on 2009-05-12
In Reply to: the only "school" thing I agree with is sm - MT30+
operate, but I would call people who fell into their traps, 'suckers.'
I am convinced that they came into this profession with diligence and the honest wish to give their best, work hard. but were overwhelmed by what they were confronted as not well- and enough-trained newbies.
They were misinformed and taken advantage of by misrepresentation and false promises.
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Not everyone is happy with substandard pay.
There are schools, and then there are schools.... (sm)
and so far no one where I worked before or currently has been interested in hiring. Some schools are nothing but a scam. Others are excellent. It's the transition period from newly-graduated student to income-producing worker that has a lot to do with the MT shortage. Many newbies throw in the towel and quit the profession because even though they're ready to work, they can't get in. Back in the day, many services & hospitals would take a couple newbies under their wing (I was one of them) to basically learn on-the-job. That may not be a completely viable option nowadays, but something in-between would. Another thing that I'd love to see changed is the snooty attitude many old-timers have to newcomers to the field.
The two best schools seem to be
Andrews and M-Tec. I have been in this industry for decades, both as an MT and MTSO, and it seems that the grads from those two are the most ready to hit the ground running. I wish you luck with getting money back from TranSCAM; they have, unfortunately, ripped off many people who fall for their shtick.
Yes, these schools
just want your money because so many people who get into this field shouldn't be doing it in the first place. It takes certain skills to be able to do this and the schools don't even care if you know how to read, they just want your money. I took a $600 course and finished in 3 months and luckily I found work on this website 3 years ago as a newbie. Since then, others have talked to me about this career and I discourage them if they don't have the capabilities it takes to do this type of work. So many think that it's a piece of cake since they can already type. And it is very difficult to find a job with an internship included. And they want experience, usually 3 to 5 years. Those seem to be very difficult to find these days. I wouldn't recommend it myself and I do enjoy my job.
I wonder about schools s/m
KIds seem to be graduating now without skills in the old basic, reading, writing and arithmetic and it didn't just start recently. Another of my pet peeves is hearing people say, I'm not reliable for accidents. Good grief!!!!! I've heard this spoken and seen it written.
A lot of the crap schools do
take that as truth. I know I certainly did not. There are schools that cannot get you a foot in the door, let alone promise that you can make those amounts.
Then there are schools like Career Step who have information about grads who did/do make that amount...but they don't promise it and have never promised that their grads would make that wage.
It is very possible, but for a lot of us, it's not. We cannot really blame that on the schools. We need to blame ourselves and the companies for the the 5-7 cents a line that we settle for because, like all families, we need to feed our children and pay our bills.
I see it with colleges. You can make this much in this field, you can make that much in that field. It all depends on where you work, how productive you are, what state you are in, tons of factors. Same is true with MT, too many factors.
Nothing is ever promised, especially in this line of work.
I am just happy to have a job that I love, that I am able to have the opportunity to stay at home with my young daughter, have deductions come tax season.
Hey, I made more waitressing than I did doing transcription my first year, but does that mean I want to go back to waitressing? Not a chance. I could have made more at McDonalds, in fact, but do I want to deal with that crap? Not really.
I am thrilled about being an MT and would not trade it for the world and certainly didn't buy into the get rich scheme that a lot of those schools throw our way.
It's a shame that schools have to use that as a way to get people to attend, but it works..and let me tell you, I have plenty of people that have never ever done transcription that tell me what a cake job my job is, you've all heard it before.. I CAN DO THAT, ALL YOU DO IS TYPE
...and THOSE are the people that get backed into the corner by these schools thinkin that this is going to be something that they just type and can throw out lines like crazy and make that $40,000 a year....because we all know, MT is EASY... psshhh. Those schools should have to provide proof and stats.
Recommedations on DL Schools
I am looking to take my MT training. I want to make sure that I choose a distance learning school with very rigorous and demanding courses. I want to learn as much as possible. If anyone has any recommendations, they would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!
Two online schools
that have a record of getting their graduates placed in positions at home WITHOUT needing 2 years of experience are:
Andres
MTEC
Comparing schools
I took a quick look at their website, what they offer, and how much it costs. Are you interested in this course because they say they often hire top graduates? This course does not guarantee you a job with them. They even say you have to go out and market yourself.
As an M-Tec graduate, I can tell you that if you study hard and after graduation really stick to it, you will find a good job. You receive a large number of real books with M-TEC and not just some workbook. With M-TEC you have your own instructor to answer your questions and guide you through the course. Not to mention the online classes and vast online resources they offer. They have their own IT expert, who will answer your questions and holds online classes. After graduation, they will always be there to help if they can. They help with your resume, and after graduation they provide you with a large list of MT companies that hire new grads. Make a list of questions, submit them to the top 2 or 3 schools, and compare answers. Good education has its price, but it will also open doors for you!!
I blame the schools also.
Work at home, big money, easy job. Yeah, right. Just like stuffing envelopes.
Shame on MT schools
Shame on these MT schools saying they can guarantee graduates $60,000 per year!! Of course some say up to, which is very subjective, though very misleading. They ought to let people trying to get into this business know that unless they are fortunate enough to find the right fit, they are in for a bumpy ride.
these MT schools only care about the sm
money they can get and that is the bottom line.
On the other hand, there have been plenty of MTs on this board who have spoken against these MT schools and their advertising practices. We have said that this is no field to get into if you just want to work at home etc and that no school for four months, six months whatever was going to be enough to get into the field and that it takes years and years of working to even be qualified to work at home alone. But you know what? Everytime somebody talks against the schools and the fact that this profession is going down the tubes because of the attitude of wanting to work at home and make lots of money, we get blasted by other posters with rude and nasty posts.
Many of us have warned folks who wanted to go to these schools, not to do it and folks won't listen. They pay their money and just as you describe, they get out of school and still can't do the job.
Im glad somebody else is saying what the real deal is with these schools and these advertisements because for myself, this is the last time I will ever mention it. Some folks will only learn by doing and wasting their money. They won't listen.
Allied Business Schools, Inc.
I have had no problems getting job offers. Right now I am working for a great lady that really respects her MTs. She just got a new account, so she is growing, which is a good thing. I can work whenever I want, literally. The only she asks is that I do at least 30 minutes of dictation a day for five days a week. Of course, I will do way more than that, but it is nice to know that if I need a break for a day or two then she won't mind.s
I wish you the best of luck!!!
There are 2 great on-line schools
that are so good their graduates are hired right away: Andrews and M-Tec.
Don't accept less than the best where your livelihood is concerned.
Here my schools requirements for an externship
I am enrolled at Kaplan University in the AS degree program for medical transcription
MR203: Medical Externship and Evaluation (3 Credits) |
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Course Description
Successful completion of this course will require 90 hours of transcription experience at an approved health care setting. Students will be evaluated on the performance of expected competencies at the end of the course. The course requires a final presentation. The online version of MR203 requires each student to locate their own externship site and obtain approval by the clinical coordinator prior to beginning externship. |
Course Objective
By the end of this course, you should be able to:
- Transcription of health care dictation to demonstrate accomplishment of the transcription program outcome (MRT-1).
- Prepararation of patient care documents to demonstrate accomplishment of the patient records outcome (MRT-2).
- Medical Transcription practice within the ethical guidelines, standards, regulations, and laws demonstrating accomplishment of the standards, laws, and ethics program outcome (MA-3).
- Application of learned foundational knowledge demonstrating accomplishment of the foundational knowledge program outcome (MA-4).
- Professional communication and conduct demonstrating accomplishment of the professionalism program outcome (MA-5).
and they can afford to BUY TRANSCRIPTION SCHOOLS!!!
...and they didn't lower the cost for the HOSPITALS! They're just pocketing all the money they are making by RAPING US of our pay!!!!!
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!
Gee, ya think that's maybe why the original poster asked about SCHOOLS??
Amazing! Obviously brains are not too much of a requirement...Ya just had to get that dig in about how hard it is due to medical "language", yadda, yadda. Give it a break and say something we or the original poster DIDN'T know!
MQ will hire newbies from "approved schools", what are they? sm
I am considering going through a community college that has a 100 hour internship program at the end. I want to know if this will be enough to hire on as a trainee with them.
Is it just Career Step they approve of? Anyone know?
It's all those matchcover schools telling them they can make
$40,000-50,000 in their first year working at home while their small children play quietly at their feet! The only ones getting rich are the so-called schools. There ought to be somewhere to turn them in for false advertising.
How do these MT schools get away with saying you can make $40,000 per year. That is a fake
advertisement and should be banned!
Has anyone else seen ads for MT schools that promise 40,000 yearly? This doesn't appear to be tru
with my experience, at least starting out anyway.
I know of 2 MTs from reputable schools who started w/o the 2 year exp. nm
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Yep, one of the "top 3 schools" has grads that will work for this.
On the forum of the MT school I graduated from, I see all the time new MTs taking jobs for 1-2 cpl for editing jobs. Right now there are posts of those willing to work for free just to get experience. It drives me crazy. They don't get that they are driving the rates down for everyone. Why would a company pay more when there are new grads beating down their door to work for 1-2 cents per line. They don't get that they are ruining the profession they have just worked so hard to get into.
They changed their name ... check the AAMT list of schools
it shows it as being changed
It's a myth perpetuated by the students and staff at those schools. nm
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A lot? You've got to be kidding. Name them. "Big schools" still don't equal experience.
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I agree, absolutely agree
and I might say, this is keeping updated in ALLLL specialities and subspecialities, drugs, instruments, and on and on. It is not a good profession for sure and sadly it is the MTs who are being very definitely HAD
Agree 100%
STAY away!
Nobody is going to agree anyway. LOL
And nobody has worked for every company in the U.S. to be able to offer an informed opinion.
Agree
I agree also. I do think that each company has its MTs that have not one thing good to say about the company and on the flip side, there are many that love it. I have worked at a few different companies in my time and find through experience on this forum to be true. I absolutely love Transcend. There are a few things that aren't perfect in my book, but the good far outweighs the bad. The thing that I hate, though, is if you have anything good at all to say about your company, you are either management, lying, or a cheerleader. I think that people love to believe the worst.
I also have found out through my travels that things can vary greatly from one employee to another even though they may work at the same company. There may be a rule for you that does not apply to another, example - below one says Spheris would not allow someone to work at MQ also but there is an MT who is doing it with permission. An MT can get on here and argue all day long that this or that doesn't happen at their company but it may very well happen for another MT. It is so humerous to me to see that we believe that being employed at a company, in our remote homes, that we think we know everything about that company and how it operates with the other remote MTs - MTs that more than likely we don't even know.
I agree 100%.
I agree 100%
I don't agree entirely.
When offshore outsourcing first began many clients began jumping on that bandwagon thinking they were going to be able to save money. That resulted in a great number of clinics and hospitals eliminating their in-house transcription departments because of 1) reduction in overhead expense by outsourcing a whole department and 2) realizing an even greater reduction in expenses by using foreign labor at less cost than domestic transcription wages. The trend is beginning to come full circle now and because of quality issues and the higher cost of risk management more clients are demanding that their medical records information stay in the United States. A lot of MTSOs now advertising are stating right in their ads NO OFFSHORE MTs NEED APPLY. Clients are beginning to see that it wasn't as cost effective as they thought it would be because it actually ends up costing more in the long run either in quality or risk management. Some hospitals and clinics are actually bringing work back in house again and only using domestic vendors for overflow work. I think sooner or later unless the quality of VR improves it will have the same result.
i agree
I also had a similar experience last year and did not like it at all. It was a total mistake.
Yes, I agree
Thank you for posting this! I am also very happy with Amphion. It is nice to hear a positive experience for a change. I hope your post will help other MTs searching for work realize that there really are some good companies out there!
I agree--
They will make your life miserable with every nit picking thing they can think of to get you to quit. Again, this was my experience, no one has to agree with me.
Agree
but I thought that she was referring to simply putting it in a diagnosis, not coding.
Agree
LOL......I understood that she was just transcribing the numbers as they're dictated. And, we all know the docs don't always give the "dash" (-) or "slash" (/) word when it needs to be typed in.
I wasn't trying to help code, been a while since I did that, just trying to help make sure her question was answered. (No offense intended.) :)
I agree with QT
QT EASY platform -- a few mushmouths -- mainly PAs very few ESLs -- also FutureNet is a good company -- direct deposit as statutory by they will express mail checks and good cpl rate -- sorry for the typos -- just got done for the night and no fingers left
I agree..
I left after sitting for five hours and getting 2 reports, this was Transcend who bought MDI. Then, there was the sound issues.
The staff was just great though!
I agree with everything you said....
It just seems like Transcend is the company to bash this month, but I am extremely happy
I Agree.....
There are so many "cherry-pickers" on the account(s) I work on, it makes me crazy. Some of us get stuck doing the hardest jobs and the others breeze through.
I agree 100%. (sm)
Someone here had a bad experience and has made it her goal in life to run this company down. Maybe she didn't come up to par....actually you can tell that by her messages. I have only been with OSi about 6 months, but will be staying till I retire.
I agree!
Definately the meanest on this board. Always has something to say, whether it pertains or not...
I agree
the swearing on the boards and making fun of other people, pathetic. I thought we were all grown ups here. I can't believe that some of these grown women sound more immature than my 11 year old.
Agree! LOL (nm)
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I agree
No I don't work out of the Amherst office -- have heard so much about them on this board.... I work out of the Orange CA office and last week except for 1 day -- it was like pulling teeth to get enough work to keep me busy during the day. Now, I am face today with either sitting babysitting my computer all day just waiting for work or taking the day off either unpaid or burn some PTO. Can't really afford either, but this is just stupid. If I get my butt out of bed and "at my job" by my start time.... I should get paid whether there is anything to do or not.
Agree, besides, what one co does, the others will
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I agree. sm
Not a very good place to work. Communication was horrible when I was there.
Agree with above
Yes, they pay for downtime. The only time they do not is if is due to something on your end like electric failure or internet failure. If there is no work or if their computer breaks or system is down, they pay $12/hr downtime. In my experience, there is also the option of making up the time if only a few hours or so (which equates to more than $12/hr for me, so I have always made time up if I could).
I agree with aa
Here are the good points: They do apparently pay for spaces now. I would confirm this if you apply.
They seem to have plenty of work - you definitely won't be sitting around for days without work.
They pay approximately 5 days after the end of the pay period, which is actually pretty fast as payroll goes.
They do seem to have some interesting accounts, although I wouldn't know how you get on them.
If you can ignore the goofy emails that get sent out on a regular basis and try to ignore the inconsistent QA, they pretty much leave you alone. If you need benefits, though, look elsewhere.
Have to agree
I quit two weeks after training.
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