Heartland and India lowdown
Posted By: anon on 2006-05-11
In Reply to: Heartland India based originally - looking for more
Heartland was started by Steve Mandel who thought he could get rich by starting a medical transcription business and having all his work done in India, including QA and management, but it didn't work out the way he expected it to so he moved management back to Toledo. He had a few U.S. MTs and QA people there, but the majority of the work was still being done in India. He took advantage of a little-known clause in the minimum wage law that lets an employer hire foreign nationals to work here in the U.S and pay them the equivalent of wages in their home country and brought over a number of Indians to work in Toledo, mostly in the technical departments, but there were some who were learning to QA, and only god knows what else. What they did best was generate more useless paper than the Pentagon. Mandel, however. was still having money problems so he conned Manor Care into some sort of partnership. He was also having quality problems because the Indians who were doing QA couldn't cut it. When his biggest and most prestigious client threatened to pull out because of the poor quality, he gave the okay to hire U.S. editors to work from home. I was one of those editors. All I can say is that I stayed only long enough so I didn't have to pay them back 2000 bucks that they shelled out for plane fare, lodging/meals, and training in Toledo for 5 days. All I can say about the training was that more time was spent having to listen to people sing the praises of the company (and badmouth the Indians) than in front a computer learning their dreadful system. Heartland was a very sick place. I felt it the minute I stepped into the offices there. I know that people listened in on phone conversations when I would have to call another Editor about something. Even the most innocent remark would get blown out of proportion and somebody would tattle. I also suspected them of trying to hack into my personal compter because I was able to trace the attempts to Bangalore. I truly feel badly for the people who lost their jobs, but no one should have ever had to work for a company the likes of Heartland. If I had had 2000 dollars when I was in Toledo, I would have written a check the same day I got there and headed home. One of the people in my training group did just that. As far as all the work going to India now, unless things have changed A LOT in the last 3 years, they will lose most of their clients and hopefully the jobs will come back here where they belong.
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Heartland India
Those of us who have been in the business know this information. However, when I started working there, they told me that they were on a 5-year plan to bring the work back into the US. Sounded good to me and I bought it. Maybe was a lie, maybe not. Also, when a person is a newbie and you just want to get your foot in the door, you will take what you can get. Those of us who have been in the business for umpteen years didn't have to face what the less-experienced MTs are facing today. Cut them some slack. They don't have the research skills that us oldies have and they don't know the business like we do. Teach them instead of torment them. They just got their first lesson in check out the company fully before signing up. But, that will mean nothing to them if they have just gotten their MT diploma and are raring to go to work for someone, ANYONE.
Heartland India
That was a nice comment you made !
Heartland was started in India and American MTs should
Valuable lesson learned. Never go to work for a company that is based on offshoring because they'll simply pull the rug out from under you. I don't mean to sound heartless and I wish I had jobs to offer all the American MTs but I don't.
However, Mr. Ormond said the firm's transcription business started in India, and the company tried to bring it to the United States but it wasn't profitable. -- from the article.
Those of us in the business a long time knew where their center of business was located from the beginning.
Heartland India based originally
I'm almost certain that at the time Heartland was purchased by HCR, they were originally a India based entity. The Domestic MTs/editors came much later.
L&H lowdown...
L&H was the best company I ever worked for - the people were great, the work was good, they were a company that took care of the employee. As posted above, once the big-shot guys were caught lining their pockets - they tried to keep afloat, but couldn't and were forced to sell - in came MQ. Many, many left - Melody and Teresa went to OSI, as did I believe the QA manager - super nice people and great to work with - regardless of what some of the posts below say. When I knew Melody, she was terrific to work for. One of my best buds, J Hallmark, was a supervisor, again - nobody was a better supervisor than she was! In a nutshell, it was a great company. I, for one, probably would have retired from there. It's a shame that more companies in today's world don't take thier lead from how L&H was as an employer. They had a good rep with the hospitals for quality work; they took care of the employees - offered decent pay, decent time off and actually let you use it!
MY LOWDOWN - - sm
MQ - 2005 and before: Great company, very flexible, frequent bonuses for big $. Went sour after Jan. 2006. Strict schedule and high requirements and constant nitpicking. Final straw was when they put everybody on 100 QA, even after there for many years. then
AMPH. - Horrible and demoralizing! From the getgo you're told QA requirement is higher than other companies and put under the QA b--- from hell, with constant insults. Left after 2 weeks with 2 weeks FT training pay (guess who got the last laugh?)
TRANSCEND - Not me, but cousin also lasted 2 weeks here. Nitpicked to death at beginning about demographics - MORE UNPAID WORK THAN LINES - and the unpaid demographics/bookkeeping was under QA rating, to boot.
India, Michael. The MT world is going to India. Wonder why? nm
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offshore to India, it's OFFSHORE (off shore), not outsource to India.
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Heartland?
Has anyone heard of a company called Heartland Transcription out of Toledo? A friend of mine has been talking to them and wondered about it, so I told her that since I was online right now I would ask. Thanks!
Heartland
You MUST be their recruiter.
heartland
TAKE EVERYONES ADVICE, DON'T GO THERE - BEEN THERE - WORST EVER.
Heartland
WOW! What paper was this printed in, the post doesn't mention it. Also age discriminations is llegal folks, and just fort he record HIS hired me and I am 58...make me wonder..................nola
Heartland
I myslef cannot help but wonder what is going on with Heartland. I currently work for them and scared I will end up without a job.
Heartland does.
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Heartland?
Does anyone have info or updates on what is going on at/with Heartland? I've heard about quite a few layoffs in the recent days. Thanks.
heartland
sometime back, there was a post in this forum regarding heartland's sale status. it refers to spi backing out of acquisition of heartland...
Heartland.....sm
Medical transcription business booming
Anshuman Daga
Bangalore, February 20
Medical transcription firm HealthScribe India, which uses India’s large pool of English-speaking graduates to enter medical data on US patients, expects its revenue to nearly double annually over coming years.
“I expect our turnover to grow at 80 percent compounded annual growth rate for the next few years,” HealthScribe’s Chief Executive Officer Tony Hales told Reuters in an interview.
The company, a joint venture between Max India and Healthscribe Inc of the United States, currently does $6 million in business a year.
The booming medical transcription business has become a $ 6 billion industry in the USA.
Transcription professionals key in medical data such as patient histories or treatment into computers after doctors in the USA phone the transcription centre and verbally record their observations. Once keyed into computers the data is transferred back to US hospitals via e-mail.
Global Centre
India has become a global hub for medical record transcription business with the establishment of high-speed telecom links and its large number of English-speaking graduates.
The fact that wages in this field in India are only 15 percent of US salaries is the biggest draw for firms such as HealthScribe to set up shop in India, Hales said.
“Our (HealthScribe’s) only limitation for growth has been time and experience,” Hales said. The company was not adding more than 75 to 100 employees a month to ensure that the quality of work is maintained, he explained.
Hales said it takes about four years for a local employee to match the quality of work done by his counterpart in the USA.
Other foreign companies in the same industry with operations in India include US-based HeartLand Information Systems and CBay Systems (India).
The growth of such services has been fuelled by rising demand to maintain basic hospital data and records and use these as legally recognised documents for US doctors to support medical decisions. Reuters
Heartland?
Who is spi? Thank you.
Heartland... now what do we do?
So... what do we do now guys?
Heartland
So sorry to hear about what happened. They will lose their clients. Are any of you from MS, AR or TN???
Heartland
I'll bet the we take care of our people people have even them beat dirtwise.
Heartland
Very sad, well-written. Please, please, forward this to former Senator John Edwards at OneAmericaCommittee.com. Please browse the site and familiarize yourselves with the work the Senator has been doing. I believe HE REALLY CARES. Please anyone who has the time, browse the One America site. You can sign up for updates from them and help by signing petitions and just spreading the word. It's time for Americans to take back America, don't you think? Thanks all. God bless you all who have been treated in this fashion by Heartland, but consider that some way, in some fashion, the ones who did this to you WILL get their just rewards.
Heartland
The we take care of our people was supposed to be in parentheses but didn't show up in my post.
Heartland
I am sorry for all of you. I had the miserable experience of working for Heartland a few years ago. I stayed only 6 months so I didn't have to reimburse them $2000 for their flying me to Toledo for training (what a joke that was) me. For those of you who want to write their clients, be careful. It technically could be a violation of HIPAA. Instead, write the newspapers where the client is located. You can bet that their staff members read the letters to the editors. A letter to the client could just get buried by the administration. I know of at least 2 instances where a client was outsourcing to India, but their staff was unaware of it. Do not, of course, mention the name of the client. Call it a local medical facility or a medical facility located in this state or area if there is only one medical facility in that particular town... something like that. It has been a few years since I worked for Heartland, but while with the company, I edited reports typed in India. If any of you want to E-mail me with the city and state (no other information) where a client is located, I will be happy to write a letter to an Editor too. Best of luck to all of you.
Heartland
HCR Manor Care is the mother company for Heartland, Inc., they are NOT BROKE by any stretch of the imagination.
Heartland MTs.....I want to ......sm
tell you how sorry I am for your situation. Take some satisfaction in the knowledge that eventually Heartland will realize they made a grave mistake by outsourcing all their work overseas.
If you are interested in working for a 100% US company, perhaps I can help you. Just drop me an email through the board here. Good luck to all of you!!
Heartland
YOU are so right. I have said all along from all the posts I've seen from MQ to anyone else. They cry gimmee, gimmee, gimmee. They don't get what they want, so they bad mouth the company, but OMG, don't even think of working on weekends (except maybe every once in a while), or a holiday, or after 5 pm. If that's the schedule they have been looking for, they are in the wrong field. You can't watch soaps and eat bons bons while you transcribe. I basically work the same schedule I did IN a hospital, usually all day Saturday and I work from 5 a.m until I have met my own personal quota. This is a good field but I think it has been trashed by those who thought it was a cushy way to make easy money. Wrong, wrong, wrong. It takes as much dedication to do well at home, if not more. I agree some of the companies have taken advantage, but by and large, a lot of these people do a lot of stuff they wouldn't do or couldn't get away with while working on site.
Heartland MT
I am suppose to work today but who knows what will be in store for me. Standby or work.
More on Heartland
Why do the hospitals that contract with Heartland allow the work to be in India? I know there are hospitals out there that do not want the medical records overseas.
Not from Heartland but if it was me sm
and I could afford it, I would take the rest of the summer off and collect unemployment.
Heartland
Does anyone have any recent information? TIA
Heartland
Wondering who bought them...
Heartland
Hi,
Heard a rumor that Heartland is going to close down its HBT in India. Can anyone confirm it as a rumor or otherwise.
Heartland reply
I worked for that company for about 4 months and they were a JOKE!! I am talking in the first few months I had 8 different accounts and they were constantly changing the formatting/something about them daily and you had to run off about 150 pages everyday. I NEVER once got the same doctor EVER!! I typed on 4 different accounts all in the same day and they all had different formatting. It was a nightmare! I would not go back to them if they paid 20 cents a line!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!
Heartland sold
HIS employees - watch your backs - they have sharp sticks to put into your back while smiling to your face!
TransTech/Heartland?
Why on earth would you think this?
TransTech/Heartland
As far as I know, they are not. Heartland is now up for sale, however. Could it be possible that TransTech is interested in buying it?
I love Heartland
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Thoughts about Heartland....
Has anyone worked for this company? What are their strengths and or weakness? I have been offered a position with them. I need an honest answer please!
Heartland Woes
Alright, I think I've decided to leave.
My issues: Software is horrendous, client’s specifics are 60+ pages (which you need to know about 4+ inside and out) and not even to mention the so-called "supervisor" who reminds me of a mall rent-a-cop - obviously not a transcription background. I don't know if I should stick around until they are sold in case it would get better or do I just walk away from this?
Any other MTs out there that felt this way about Heartland and what/where did you go? Does it get any better or are all national companies like this?
HELP!!!
RE:Heartland Woes
No. Transcription companies in general are not at all as you describe in your post. I cannot even dream to commisurate with you on your job issues.
RE: HEARTLAND WOES
RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN AS FAR AS YOU CAN!! I POSTED ON HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO HOW DREADFUL THAT COMPANY WAS!! I WORKED FOR THEM FOR 3 MONTHS AND NOTHING EVER CHANGED, IN FACT IT JUST KEPT GETTING WORSE. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN, I HAD 8 DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS ALL IN THE SAME DAY EACH HAVING 60+ PAGES TO REVIEW... IT IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE! THAT COMPANY SHOULD BE BANNED!! Grrrrrrr
Info on Heartland
I have read the board on Heartland and was wondering if anyone out there has a recent good view on them as a company?
Does anyone know where Jennifer from Heartland went?
TIA
Duh, they bought Heartland...
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Heartland - Gemstar
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Heartland Layoffs
Were you aware that they already laid off about 30 US-based MTs at the beginning of APril... with only 1 week notice?
I was one of them. They lost an account and simply dumped everyone for whom it was a primary account. They begged all of us to take on secondary accounts not long before that, but at the time of the layoff call they said there was no work on any of the secondary accounts. And, BTW, your conference call sounds exactly like ours.
We almost need a Heartland forum on here like MQ! nm
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When I was interviewed by Heartland,
I was told that they were planning to stop offshoring and bring all the jobs back to the US.
Heartland Layoffs
First of all, I would like to say that I sympathsize wtih those that were laid off at Heartland, however, I believe that that there were probably indications that this was going to happen, I for one, remember seeing a LOT of job ads for Heartland and they suddenly stopped on the 2 major transcription job boards. For me, that was an indication that something was going down the tube.
I also do not agree wtih offshoring, but when I read the posts on this board, I see one theme over and over; that being laziness in general. I see posts where people gripe and complain about having to work weekends or nights or whatever and wanting to get paid decent money, but they want to only be able to work 8-5 Monday through Friday. I have been in this field for over 20 years and I believe that I have always pulled my fair share. I have seen it in the company that I work for now, and the work load goes up dramatically on the weekends, because NOBODY wants to work and as we all know, medical transcription, for the most part, is a profession that is 24/7.
Sadly to say, our society has become one, where we expect to have something for nothing. Meaning that we want the nice thinngs, but we don't have to break our necks for it. I hear of friends who are giving their kids brand-new to almost brand-new cars in high school. Heck, when I was growing up, if I wanted contacts, or a car, or clothes, I had to detassel corn or work in a fast food place to get the money to be able to have those things. I don't see that happening now, and in essence, that is why so many of our jobs have been offshored. Its not only a cheaper labor cost, but most of these people in general have a better work ethic.
My company takes pride in the fact that it doesn't offshore and it will be a cold day in a very warm place before they do.
My only advice to those that were laid off is to hang in there, send out the resumes and hopefully, you will be able to find a new company that will treat you like an employee and not a number.
Heartland Layoffs
Some people seem to be missing the point here -- I also do QA as well as medical transcription and I generally am working MANY hours a day and usually 6-7 days a week, because I know budget-wise what it takes for me to surviive.
As a QA person, I see a quality of work that is totally unacceptable and it is from American medical transcriptionists. I read about people saying they can do X number of lines in an hour, or that they type X number of words a minute and as a QA person, that is usually the persons report that has 10 or more blanks in it, because UNFORTUNATELY they are more concerned about production than they are quality.
I sometimes wonder how many medical transcriptionists go back and re-listen to a report they have typed and then are able to figure out what the doctors are saying?
I have worked both inhouse and from home and I really have to agree that if someone TRULY wants to get started in this field, then they should work onsite first to truly get a grasp at what medical transcription entails.
There ARE people who are medcal transcriptionists who DO work long and hard hours and ARE getting shafted by the companies they work for, but quite frankly, I am tired of the ones who have toddlers and small children at home and whine about how they can do this work and take care of their kids too -- just because you work at home, dosen't mean that your children can be underfoot all the time and it is also learning about priorities as well. If you were working on the outside, you would NOT be allowed to take a huge amount of time off for kid activities or family activities, so the MTSOs do have legitimate gripes when it comes to employees not working when they say they will or keeping to a schedule, and this is where I am coming full circle when I talk about a work ethiic -- it has slowly and steadily been disappearing over the years.
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