Gross lines unless it is a line of 72+
Posted By: me on 2005-09-27
In Reply to: GROSS LINE VERSUS 65 CHARACTER - Scout
characters or more, then you can really get cheated. Once company that has someone plugging for them on MTChat pays gross lines, but those lines are up to 84-104 characters in some parts of the report, so you really get taken to the cleaners with the gross count.
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Spaces are not taken into account with gross lines....a line is a line...sm
if there seven words on a line.
or two
one
or a full line of typing...all of the companies that I have worked for define a gross line as 1 inch margins, 12 pt courier font....does not matter what we type in margins or font.....we convert all reports to the 1 inch margins and courier 12 font and then count the lines. not the blank spaces between the lines.
Hope this helps.
Sometimes a gross line can equate to more than 65 counted character lines
I know one company whose lines are in very tiny font with very wide margins. The line length for those gross lines is 104-120 characters. This is almost double a 65 counted character line.
You can make a comparison of which is better by making a copy of your report (use cut/paste or lift into an expander, then copy into blank document) and run it thru a line count program set at 65.
Your definition of gross line is correct, but your equating it to pay is only good if the line length for gross lines is maximum 65 characters. MTSOs are learning how to make this gross line sound wonderful but in reality are robbing you blind.
7-8 gross is great. That is equivalent to 10-12 65 character lines, as a gross
line is about 35% lower than a 65 character line. Will you share who is paying this>
A gross line is not based on characters. A gross line is
anything on the line constitutes a line, so if you only have 1 word on a line it is still counted as a line. A gross line at 8 cpl roughly translates to 10 cpl/65 character.
Thanks for the info! Do you *feel* like you make more with a gross line v. character line? (nm)
Oh, they make money off us. Line rate is 17 cents a gross line.nm
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Could someone help me with the figuring out of gross line versus character line? sm
I have generally been paid by character line, 65-character line. Now, I have had job opportunities offering to pay gross line but it like 3 cents cheaper than what I am being paid now. A few places I have read that gross line is MUCH better, but is it much better if the pay is so much lower? Please explain how it works or equals out. This position has offered me 6 cents per gross line - what would that equal out to in character lines? Thanks...so confused...
gross lines
I know that this has been posted numerous times but I have never paid much attention to it until now...seems like lines must be 100 characters long or something. Anyway, what is that formula for checking gross lines against the 65-character line? Thanks.
gross lines
Gross lines means anything that is on a line, i.e. signature on a letter, date, etc., is a line - usually the standard for gross lines is Courier 12 with one inch margins. There is a formula that will give you a pretty good estimate of gross lines versus other line counts, but essentially if you multiply gross lines x 1.44, you get a pretty good estimate of the pay per line you would need with a 65 char line to equal a gross line. For example, if you are being paid 8 cpl gross lines, you would need to make roughly 11.5 cpl on a 65 char line to approximate the same rate of pay. That depends, of course, on lots of factors and is just an estimate (actual gross line pay is usually even more, depending on if you have a lot of short lines, etc.) I know companies that charge their clients by the gross line, then PAY their MTs on a 65 char line - VERY bad business if you ask me. As a rule, you get a better deal with gross lines any way you slice it - just make sure they mean gross lines with 1 margins and Courier 12 font.
If the pay is REALLY on gross lines
I'd snag it at 6 cpl and be danged glad to get it. Haven't heard of anyone paying on gross lines in probably 15 years so I kind of have to wonder if there isn't something a little fishy.
What companies still pay gross lines?
nm
can DQS be set up to count gross lines? nm
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Gross or character lines
In word, under properties they do not count headers that occur on every page. You have to add that in by the numer of pages, i.e. if you are doing a long psych report that is 9 to 15 pages and have a headed on every page. I could be wrong and if so let me know. I just did a count with a header and those lines were not counted. But if you are doing a cpl you can count characters with and without spaces. But again in word they do not count extra characters for capitalization, bold, underline, etc where as in line counting program, Sylcount, they do. So will you be using your program or theirs to count lines? Gross or per 65 cpl.
55 is better. After gross lines, companies
went to 55 character lines, and now 65 character lines.
With the 55-char line, you only have to type 55 characters to get your line rather than 65.
Gross lines versus 65 character
What is 7 or 8 cpl gross equivalent to in 65 character
Doesn't FirstChoice pay gross lines? If so, then
6 or 7 cpl gross would be equivalent to about 8-9. Not very good, but could be worse.
"a line is a line" means gross line.
Gross line is a line, no matter how long or short.
Meditech usually pays by gross lines so I find
that it works out about the same, maybe even a little more per hour. That has just been my experience, though.
A gross line is any line that has a character on it, so even if
a line just has one character on it, it is considered a line. If you are getting 6 cpl per gross that is approximately equal to 8 cpl based on 65 characters. Sometimes the font on a gross line can make it be less than that though.
gross line pay
If using Meditech, getting paid 8 cents/gross line is equivalent to what in getting paid per 65 cpl?  TIA
gross line pay
Sorry, that question doesn't make any sense. What I meant basically is this: Is 8 cents/gross line in Meditech's system good pay? I was typing in Fusion and getting 7 cents/gross line at one time and it equalled far less lines than 7 cpl at a 65 char. line. Does this make sense to anyone? Thanks.
It is sad is what it is....used to be that per GROSS line.
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They did not say if it was gross line
or 65 ch, but I think that they feel that because it is part time, that is all that is deserved. Part time or not, an acceptable pay should be required. I doubt they will get many applications, except maybe a newbie looking for experience and does not have to pay rent, etc.
Gross line pay is almost ALWAYS better
depending on the rate of gross pay. For instance, I just did a sample line count in MPTools. I compared one document and counted a gross line - anything with writing on it and a 65-char line (spaces included) and I compared the rates at .10/65char and .055/gross and for the SAME REPORT it showed: $96.06 for the 65-char line and for the gross Line it was $119.96. Still more money that way. And it adds up.
For the most part, from what I have seen, .10/65-char line is about what most companies TOP OUT at, so you are still better off with a gross line, at least from what I can see in the comparison.
Is that per gross line?....
nm
Of course the gross line is more, but what is
the percentage of ESL, how easy is the platform, are there any benefits, can you be flexible with your schedule ....
I don't know anything about either company. I would search the boards and read everything you can find and make you a list of pros and cons.
GROSS LINE PAY
Are there any companies left that still pay the hard-working medical transcriber by the gross line?
A gross line is a gross line, however, if
the gross line is 75 characters long, instead of the usual 65, and you have long paragraphs, then you are making less money than if you were on a 65 character count.
6 cpl per gross line
Yes, it really is gross line as you described. nm
It's 6 cpl per gross line. Nothing to
gross line, it's going to come out to the average pay for 65 character - about .085, maybe 0.09 cpl
gross line
so disappointed, those were the old ole' days.
Who pays by the gross line? Anyone?
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Hmm, exactly what is a 65-character gross line?
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Pay is six cents gross line.
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Is that a gross line? Anything else is an insult!
Do the math. Could you not make more transcribing? I was paid $20 an hour and 4 cents a gross line at one point. Even that was lower than what I could make doing MT!
What companies pay by the gross line?
A list of companies would be great, thanks for your help!
Are there any companies that pay by gross line? nm
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By Gross line - IMAGESTAT - sm
There is a post below that says Imagestat USED to pay by gross line. I work there and get paid by gross line.
Anybody care to elaborate on this? How do you know? 
she asked GROSS line
of course font size matters
In reference to gross line pay...sm
Let's put it this way. I used to be paid by the gross line until my company was bought out by a national. My pay at that time was 3.25 per gross line. Working on the very same client account on a gross line, I earned $20,000 more then anually than I do now after having been switched to 0.09 65 cpl w/spaces. However, a gross line also depends on the size of the font used and the length of the margins. But you get paid 3.5 cpl whether there is 82 characters in a *line* or just one character. do you realize how many short lines there are in a dictation as opposed to full 65 character lines? and how many of those short lines it takes to add up to a 65 character line? Believe me, it adds up, and I would go back to a gross line in a heart beat, given the opportunity. Maybe I will give this place a shot!
I was told by recruiter they pay gross line
nm
GROSS LINE VERSUS 65 CHARACTER
I am wondering which is better. Is gross line better than 65 character line with spaces. Thanks
Question 0.625 cpl gross line with no mention of
spaces - means very good possibility this is 6 cpl on however many characters their font allows on a line on the page, right? No mention of spaces... I understand it also means that just one character on a line could count also but good grief!!
I'm jealous! Is it gross line or 65 character? I am also
on an ER account with EXText but I cannot get near that. Any tips to share? I love working at Keystrokes but would love to get those kind of lines even more!
It could mean that a gross line will not exceed 65 characters. nm
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Oh, yeah, I miss that gross line, too....
but I came from a 65-char company originally so I just look at it as back to same ol, same ol. But yeah, I do miss those gross lines...
Overall I haven't had too much problem adjusting, but then I was just grateful to be working again. And I also like the flexibility; I'm glad I didn't go to WMX with some of the rest.
Still very low at 6 cpl for gross line. I wouldn't take it and anyone else would be crazy to! n
!@!
8 center per gross line...as good as 9/65 cpl?
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Depends on the length of the gross line. If it's
set as a 65-character length line also (as in same margins, same length), then 8 cpl gross is equivalent to about 10 cpl per 65 characters. But if the gross line margins are set for a really long line, then you might not come out much ahead. Did that make sense?
Well only if you get your own accounts or are paid gross line.
There is no way a transcription company will pay you that much. I have one of my own accounts too and make 12 cents per gross line, and I make around $50 per hour on average.
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