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Excel date/time value vs. format

Posted By: Excel guru on 2008-01-26
In Reply to: Excel logs and adding up job lengths (sm) - tnmt

It's helpful to understand how Excel handles date/time. (In all examples below, you don't actually type the quotes)

Excel maintains a distinction between the VALUE of the date/time and the FORMAT. For instance, when you type 5:12 in cell A3, Excel understands that you mean a date/time value, and stores this as 0.2166666. By default, if you do not specify a date, Excel uses the mythical 1/9/1900 for the date portion, and the time specified.

As another example, go to any cell and type in =NOW(). Excel will store this as a date/time, but format it on screen to your default preference -- mine looks like 1/26/2008 14:23. But if you click on that date again, then go to the Format menu, choose Number, select 4 Decimal places, you will see it change to 39473.6000 -- representing 39473.6 full days from the beginning of time (according to Excel - 1/0/1900).

Bottom line: go ahead and enter your data as just h:mm, then add them up / see if it behaves -- shouldn't require any special formatting....

Also, fwiw - if you have any Excel questions, I would be happy to reply here or answer emails....


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Sounds like you don't mind doing it, but if you're curious - check your formatting.

Go to the cell in question, then use the menu: Format > Cells
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Then type in 5:03 (or any time with just m:ss)

Also, try to type this in: 4:63 -- see what Excel changes it to

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This is for the MTs who have to keep an Excel log for jobs and need to add up the minutes transcribed at the end of the day.


I've done some footwork today and discovered a Microsoft page which tells you how to enter times into cells:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/266691


I haven't figured how to automate it, but basically Excel recognizes minutes and hours if entered in the following format:  hh:mm:ss.  So if you have a 5 minute 12 second job, you would enter 00:05:12 in that cell.  Then at the end of the day you enter the formula =Sum and the cell range (the link gives specific example) and it adds up your minutes and seconds automatically for you. 


I thought I'd share.  I've been adding my account by hand because I didn't know how to sum with minutes and seconds till now.


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