Employee VS IC definition
Posted By: darlene on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: Need a new gig...prefer IC status at this point and... - Chapelbound
You need to read up on IC VS employee status deinitions according to IRS and labor department. Google the term and read up a bit. Here is a page, click the various titles and they open up
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How is that going to help me? I wasn't asking for a definition of IC vs Employee
Just want to find a new job.
Look up the definition...
Definition of IC
I just experienced something horrible that happened to me this week. I've been an IC with a small transcription company (prefer not to mention name) for almost 1 year now. The manager has her moods. When I started to work this week, I noticed nothing was in my job que to type. I kept e-mailing her and e-mailing her and she never responded back. I then tried calling her and she never responded back. I started to get very frustrated. I found out from another IC that she had given my work to another IC without even confronting me. I know that an IC is different than a permanent employee, but how on earth could anybody treat somebody like that for no reason at all. Talk about being angry and frustrated! Luckily, I was able to find work pretty fast, but it really stinks when you are an IC that a company could just let you go for no reason at all and especially totally ignoring your e-mails and phone calls. Has anybody experienced what I just went through?
Definition of IC
The HR manager wants me to call her on Monday in regards to explain to me what the exact term of 1099/IC means. I did e-mail the staff that I was upset that I did not have any work in the cue for 9 straight days. They told me that's the definition of being an independent contractor. You would think they would have at least told me that TOA account went away. They did not even put me on another account. I would be sitting here for months without anything to do unless I did not catch looking on Global Documents and realizing that all of the TOA doctors were gone on the list. How would you handle that if you were an MT? I know you were QA2, but imagine being in my situation.
I've got your definition
IC means they don't promise you a thing with regard to volume of work, but expect you to work as if you were an employee...
IC used to mean Independent Contractor - you contract with a service or doctor/hospital to provide certain services. They define the job needed to be done, but *you* set your price.
To be fair, a qualified MT still has the ability to negotiate rate, etc., and many MTSO's are flexible and fair. Too many however, (MQ) are so totally corporatized they are quickly moving to force the former independent into a employee status - and in the process removing *much* if not all of the production pay incentives that used to make this work (more)bearable.
Watch the new trend: Pay newbies nothing and QAers very little and end up with a finished product that nets a bigger profit. Hey, if we stand for it, we deserve to be exploited.
true definition
what is the true definition of a wannabe?
Definition of 10-key skills
Accounting courses teach 10-key skills by touch the same way typing courses teach keyboarding by touch. When you are entering numbers, it is much, much, much easier and faster to use the keypad to the right instead of the numbers on the top row of the keyboard. This is by touch, not by hunting and pecking the numbers to the right of the keyboard.
What's your definition of life?
It depends on what your definition of a life is. I don't have kids, so having a weekend free is not important to me. I don't believe in organized religion (but have great faith in God) so going to church isn't an issue. I love having days off during the week so I can do appointments, etc., easier without intruding on my workday. I am a night owl, so the shift I work for my MTSO which is 5 pm to 1:30 am is perfect for me. I love my schedule.
Saturdays and Sundays are the busiest days for work, especially if you're in acute care, so it makes sense to me that's when they want the most coverage.
I have lots of work in a failing economy, so I never complain about it.
Actually it's the exact definition of it.
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Depends on your definition of holiday pay - sm
Several companies pay 1.5 times base if you work the holidays they recognize. If the holiday falls on your regularly scheduled day, you either have to work it or use PTO hours (or sometimes you are able flex that time and work it later) to be off on the holiday.
Do you know the definition of RUMOR? Sheesh!
You must be a riot at the laundromat! Yackety Yack! 
Definition of syntax inside....
syntaxOne entry found for syntax.
Main Entry: syn·tax 
Pronunciation: 'sin-taks
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Late Latin; Middle French sintaxe, from Late Latin syntaxis, from Greek, from syntassein to arrange together, from syn- + tassein to arrange
1 a : the way in which linguistic elements (as words) are put together to form constituents (as phrases or clauses) b : the part of grammar dealing with this
2 : a connected or orderly system : harmonious arrangement of parts or elements <the syntax of classical architecture>
definition of a cherry picker
Cherry picking is when you get routed the easiest docs to transcribe from a particular account or when the gals in the office get routed the easier docs and leave the crap for the rest of us to do. I do every single doctor that comes to me on my account and do not pass it on to my coworkers. If I were doing that you better believe I would be hearing it from my coworkers as some of us talk between one another!!! You do not know what you are talking about and I am getting the impression that you are either a newbie or extremely immature. Somehow you seem to think that I owe you good accounts. Go out and find them, they are out there!!! Sounds like you are too afraid to expect more and lack the assertiveness necessary.... All careers have people who make the low end, middle end, and high end pay wise and job wise. I choose, here I use the word again choose to be one of the ones on the top end of the pay scale. It works the same way with for instance my husband's job. He chose to move his way up the ladder while other guys stayed down. What, is he supposed to stay down because they choose to not get ahead??? This is all so infantile... I gotta get back to work or maybe my coworkers will start to feel I am not pulling my weight!! Gee wiz....
Depends on your definition of change
No where on Nuance site could I find where it said they were moving everything to the US. Heard from Indian company the other day who was trying to recruit that Focus is hiring like crazy and are even signing up companies over there to subcontract their work to. Kinda interesting since they profess that they own all their own labor.
Definition of an Independent Contractor
Defining the Independent Contractor
No consistent, uniform definition distinguishes an employee from an independent contractor. Some statutes contain their own definitions. The U.S. Supreme Court has held that when a statute contains the term employee but fails to define it adequately, there is a presumption that traditional agency-law criteria for identifying master-servant relationships apply (National Mutual Insurance Co. v. Darden, 503 U.S. 318, 112 S. Ct. 1344, 111 L. Ed. 2d 581 [1992]).
One comprehensive test that takes into account agency-law criteria and numerous other factors courts have created to define independent contractor status was developed by the Internal Revenue Service. Known collectively as the twenty-factor test, the enumerated criteria generally fall within three categories: control (whether the employer or the worker has control over the work performed), organization (whether the worker is integrated into the business), and economic realities (whether the worker directly benefits from his or her labor). The twenty factors serve only as a guideline. Each factor's degree of importance varies depending on the occupation and the facts involved in a particular case. Twenty-factor test [nl] 1.
A worker who is required to comply with instructions about when, where, and how he or she must work is usually an employee.
2.
If an employer trains a worker — requires an experienced employee to work with the worker, educates the worker through correspondence, requires the worker to attend meetings, or uses other methods — this normally indicates that the worker is an employee.
3.
If a worker's services are integrated into business operations, this tends to show that the worker is subject to direction and control and is thus an employee. This is the case particularly when a business's success or continuation depends to a large extent on the performance of certain services.
4.
If a worker's services must be rendered personally, there is a presumption that the employer is interested in the methods by which the services are accomplished as well as in the result, making the worker an employee.
5.
If an employer hires, supervises, and pays assistants for a worker, this indicates control over the worker on the job, making the worker an employee.
6.
A continuing relationship between a worker and an employer, even at irregular intervals, tends to show an employer-employee relationship.
7.
An employer who sets specific hours of work for a worker exhibits control over the worker, indicating that the worker is an employee.
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If a worker is working substantially full-time for an employer, the worker is presumably not free to do work for other employers and is therefore an employee.
9.
Work performed on an employer's premises suggests the employer's control over a worker, making the worker an employee. This is especially true when work could be done elsewhere. However, the mere fact that work is done off the employer's premises does not necessarily make the worker an independent contractor.
10.
If a worker is required to perform services in an order or sequence set by an employer, the employer has control over the worker that demonstrates an employer-employee relationship.
11.
A worker who is required to submit regular oral or written reports to an employer is likely an employee.
12.
Payment by the hour, week, or month tends to indicate that a worker is an employee; payment made by the job or on a straight commission points to an independent contractor.
13.
A worker is ordinarily an employee if an employer pays for the worker's business or travel expenses.
14.
An employer who furnishes a worker with significant tools, materials, or other equipment tends to show that the worker is an employee.
15.
A worker who significantly invests in facilities used to perform services and not typically maintained by employees (such as office space) is generally an independent contractor.
16.
A worker who can realize a profit or loss resulting from her or his services is generally an independent contractor.
17.
A worker who performs for more than one firm at a time is generally an independent contractor.
18.
If a worker makes his or her services available to the general public on a regular and consistent basis, that worker is generally an independent contractor.
19.
An employer's right to discharge a worker tends to show that the worker is an employee. An employee must obey an employer's instructions in order to stay employed; an independent contractor can be fired only if the work result fails to meet the agreed-upon specifications.
20.
If a worker has the right to terminate her or his relationship with an employer at any time without incurring liability, such as breach of contract, that worker is likely an employee.
See: Employment Law; Labor Law; Master and Servant.
Just a quick definition for you anon for now...
SATIRE
1.the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.
obviously my post wasn't trying to trick anyone into believing I was a TT CEO, I didn't even give his name, and if anybody is slow enough to think that I am the CEO for a minute, please email me, I have a bridge to sale you.
This whole thread is about the pay decreases and why they are happending...satire, my friend, satire. I need to buy you one of those word-a-day calendars.
What is the definition of "Very nice?" $25, $50, $100, $1000?
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Everyone has a different definition of good money. Mine is 50K or more.
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definition of decent: Acceptable standards
making $50,000 a year as an MT is beyond decent, it is really great, but realistically a decent living would be less, which is what the poster asked, as the definition of decent is to have acceptable standards.
Axolotl employees----have questions about line definition, etc. sm
How does Axolotl define a line? Do they pay for spaces, headers, footers, & expansions? Are you docked for blanks or sending things to QA? If so, how much.
Thanks for the info. 
Have a fabulous 4th!
Statuatory employee versus regular employee....
Can someone tell me the difference between a statuatory employee versus a regular employee? My company offeres IC or SE status....I am confused about whether switching over the SE would benefit me more than IC status that I have been for some time with them? What are the benefits and disadvantages of being an SE versus IC? Thanks for all of your help!
They hire both IC and employee. I am an employee (see message)
and I have full benefits. I am very happy that I came to work here. I came as a statutory employee from a large company. Everyone at MDI has been great to me.
Depends on if you are employee or statutory employee (sm)
Employee, 8th and 23rd of month
Stat. Employee, 15th and 30th month
Diskriter - Anyone go from their employee to hospital employee with them?
Thinking about giving up on being their employee and applying for a hospital employee position through them, they have one in PA right now that looks good. How is it for scheduling? Do you keep your line rate or get whatever the hospital pays? Who manages those accounts, is it the same PM and DR that are on the other ones? I have DR and feel like she doesn't have a clue what she is doing and it is so annoying, but I just don't have the guts to let the company know she needs to step it up a notch because the transcriptionists are not happy under her. Are QA the same people or through the hospital. They have 1 QA that is constantly asking us questions on doctors and format, things we should be asking that QA person. Annoying that new people move up to QA but people who've been there 2 or 3 years get treated like dirt and jumped account to account.
Only employee and statutory employee..no IC
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As an employee
I average about 8.5. They have an incentive if you type 12,000 in a 2-week pay period and that's not too hard to do on their system. Plus they pay higher on the weekends and at night (which I do on a split shift). I also figure the benefits are worth it because they use United, which I like the coverage in my area. All in all I am happy with them and I really like my team leader, that's a big plus to me.
Is this IC, SE, or employee?
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Yes they do, also employee and PT
positions were available when I interviewed 6 months ago.
Every employee is different.
I have found OSi to be very flexible. I personally do not work weekends. We are required to work holidays if they fall on your normally scheduled days; although, getting paid at 5 cpl extra. You can also request holidays off, which has never been a problem for me. I have never been denied on a request.
IC vs Employee
You will pay more taxes as an IC because of SSI, whereas as an employee, you do not (your employer pays half of SSI.)
You said you are an employee? Where?
Where are these 4 companies that pay $8K a quarter for bonuses?!?! Please, do tell!!
And provide enough work for you alone to do that much work?!?! Please, do share!!
When you are an employee, do you
If so, you are better off being an employee. Otherwise, the so-called self-employment tax cuts heavily into your earned income credit. It did for me at least, without having made a huge amount of self-employment income.
You can owe as an employee also
If you filled out your W9 form and put down for 10 dependents you would also owe or if your marital status changed or your deductions changed. All I am saying is that people think that because their employer is taking their taxes out for them they are not paying their own taxes. When you handle your own money, you just have to be structured enough to take out what an employer takes out. See your paycheck before and after taxes and see the percentage you are paying. When you get a tax refund that is YOUR money that the government has had for a year. You just underpaid. You can also overpay as a business owner or an IC and get a refund. But with the amount of deductions I have, I will never go back to an employee full-time as I would lose another 20% to the government and not ready to give that over.
employee or IC.
IC or employee?
I just checked their website and it states they only hire employees? It is possible to be an IC with them?
Yes, you can be IC or employee, nm
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Employee
Their platform is very productive and they offer full benefits to full-time employees. For that they do expect you to work an employee schedule as they try to have the coverage issues worked out. There have been some growing pains with work flow, but my experience has been they have been resolved quickly and certainly nothing chronic. They do not pay for spaces but I took that into account negotiating the line rate. The efficient platform and getting paid for headers also helps offset the spaces issue for me.
Is this as an IC, or are you an employee? nm
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They must be as I don't do employee (nm)
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Sorry.. Employee, soon to be EX, at MDI-FL..
Definitely need to clarify that.
Pay for IC vs. employee
I'm interested to learn the average difference in pay between IC and employee--such as, if as an IC I earn 9 cpl (65 char with spaces), as a regular employee what would be the equivalent? I'm guessing about 2 cpl less, so it would be 7 cpl as an employee. I don't need insurance though.
Thank you in advance!
IC vs employee
An employer generally pays about 20% in benefits and overhead for each employee which includes medical insurance, paid vacation, income taxes, 401K, equipment, fringe bennies. So yes, in the example you gave it would equate to about 0.2 cpl.
Employee only. nm
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Are you and employee or IC? (nm)
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An employee. nm
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Really? I am a former employee of one of those
companies and I know one of them do.
are you an employee? sm
if so they are bound to take out state taxes. If you are an IC, of course not. Oh-- and by the way-- you would have to pay your state taxes yourself anyway :)
P.S. And, yes, I was an employee.
And yes, taxes are ultimately the responsibility of the employee, but most legitimate companies withdraw taxes from the employee's paycheck. I found it difficult enough just paying my regular bills with the very low rate of pay this company offered, and it was impossible for me to also put aside extra money to pay for the taxes they refused to take out.
One of the reasons I decided to accept employment with them was because I belieevd of all the hype about them being best employer, etc., and I refused to listen to all the little warning signs that frequently popped up in my brain. I won't ever do that again.
Not the OP, but is she is an employee, sm
why shouldn't she get paid for downtime? If you worked at Burger King and no customers came in for an hour, yet you were required to be ready to service the customers, wouldn't you expect to be paid? JMHO
Now, if she is IC, she's out of luck.
Are u an employee or IC? nm
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I am an employee
I have written a demand for payment and have not worked since not receiving my check.
Any advice on who one contacts regarding those in the legal end to contact would be most helpful if anyone knows this info.
Thanks!
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