Conflict of interest working for 2 nationals
Posted By: kks on 2005-10-30
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Just a question - back in 1998, it was considered a conflict of interest to work for 2 nationals such as Edix and Medquist. From what I see, it does not appear to be that way now. Can someone shed some light on this? For those who work for nationals - do they know you work for their competition? No flaming please - just curious.
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Conflict of interest working for 2 companies?
Has anyone ever come across a company that makes you sign paperwork stating that you are not working for another company. I need a second part-time job, finally found one and while filling out the paperwork I came across this. I didn't tell them I was working for another company during the interview but also did not deny it. Should I give up the second or just not tell?
Isn't that a conflict of interest? NM
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I would agree with the conflict of interest..
I do wonder how many people actually get caught doing this. Our vendors do have people work for other hospitals to make sure they stay productive. I never thought about the situation until it happened. What is funny is that this 1 girl I knew worked as an employee with me, BUT also worked for 1 of the vendors and my boss knew about it. She doesn't work for the vendor anymore and she still works as an employee with us. That was the interesing part.
Not legal, more conflict of interest.... nm
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I don't see it as a conflict of interest. If you meet your
obligations to each company it isn't anyone's business what you do.
When you sign a contract with a company rarely is there a clause about not working for oneone else, only a noncomplete clause.
Now if you are using their equipment for the other company I see a major issue with that, maybe not illegal, but certainly not ethical. I
I use my own equipment, and there is no conflict of interest. sm
I would prefer to only work one full-time job, but there are things that I want (like a roof over my head and to pay the utilities - ha), and the only way I know how to get them is to work enough so that I can have them. My full-time job is acute care, and the PT jobs are clinic work, so it is nice change of pace for me ... at least as nice as still sitting all day and pounding a keyboard can be. The way the wages have gone down in this industry, it seems I have to work twice as hard to make half as much. I made more in 1983 than I do right now. Still ..... such is life. And when I want to have a little pity party about having to work so much, etc., I just think of those who do not even have a job or a place to stay, and I realize I should be grateful to be working at all.
I find that those with experience with any nationals or many nationals
usually are invaluable if they have many years of experience. The more nationals they have worked for, they have been exposed to many dictators and that is a plus! I say send on the resumes if that is the case. I also find that many hospital employees whether it be for 1 year or 10 or more usually are limited in style issues, but not a major disaster.
Don't see it as a conflict
Work for the individual doctors was distinctly different from the work for the hospital itself. The doctors always went to the MR director if they were looking for someone to fill a vacancy, cover for vacation, etc., or they would wander into the transcription area and ask directly.
As noted, though, unless the physicians and their clinics are paid for by the hospital, it's no conflict. Ask yourself who does their clinic notes now. If it's not the hospital's transcription department, there's no conflict.
2 jobs conflict
It would be wonderful to only have 1 job but sometimes in this business you cannot make enough to pay the bills. I do however like the idea of only 1 job...is there a way to actually do that and get a good paycheck? I don't mean to sound naive, or pessimistic, but if you don't work for the same account through 2 vendors, is is truly a fireable offense? Again, your thoughts appreciated on this very interesting topic
That would be a conflict of interests,
director to give you leads on doctors needing work, and also pursuing work from doctors at the hospital while you are an employee at the hospital. I worked in a hospital for many years and that sort of thing was strictly prohibited.
Could I interest you
in some ocean front property I have for sale in the middle of the Mohave desert?
as far as needing certain hours that would conflict with IRS
but that is between the company and the worker.
Doesnt matter if YOU see it as conflict or not.
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I have always had an interest in this company, but....sm
their starting rate was way LOW for me. Have the upped this? Let us all know whether the pay is low, average, above average. TIA
And they seem to have an interest in buying some
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Something of interest....PLEASE READ.
The first time I noticed this, I shrugged it off. But it's happened again and time to share it with my fellow workers.
I noticed the account on which I work had no reports in the one particular subspecialty I am supposed to work first, which I found odd.
I signed in the next day, there were more than 20 reports on that particular subspecialty. As I began transcribing, I noticed these reports had been dictated 9/8/2009; I was transcribing on 9/11/2009.
Where did these reports go for 3 days?
Beats me but my assumption is *somebody* didn't meet TAT and the work bounced back to the US.
Interestingly, isn't it?
How do you get to work for both. Spheris told me it was conflict for me to have another job.
Especially with a national company. They wouldn't even talk to me about why I should leave MQ for them as long as I worked for their competition. How did you swing both jobs. I know MQ doesn't have a problem with me taking another position but Spheris was anal about it.
I don't think there would be any greater conflict concerns than there would be with any kind
;+
Also, what does interest companies contact mean?
Interest companies? What is that? (at end of job post).
No interest in running a business... of ANY kind... been there, done that.
If you're a business owner, you already know why.
you know, you don't have to open posts about topics that don't interest you.
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Your friend probably just kept paying the interest and rolling it over...
then it could add up to any amount. That is how they get you good.
I would change banks, they are making interest off your paycheck for a day.
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So you're sending out bogus INTEREST LETTERS?
As another MT who just got a we're very interested letter and questionairre, I have to say,
PLEASE GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!!!!!
You've wasted my time.
So Webmedx is just another crock of bull MTSO lying to potential employees.
Why am I not surprised?
Disgusting!
Nationals
A lot of people mention how they won't work for nationals and the smaller companies are so much better in their pay and treatment of employees - can anybody name some examples of smaller companies who are better? There are so many out there, a few examples would help. Thanks.
No I don't do nationals.
I have over 15 years of experience on-site and was asked by physicians to work for them from my home office. I have only tried one national, and I did not like the platform. It was VR. I'm a free spirit, I guess. I'm an independent contractor, keyword being independent. I guess once you are your own boss, you pretty much get set in your ways. I don't know. I make great money though, and to me, there is nothing unrealistic about my paychecks. They seem very real to me. They cash at the bank in a realistic fashion. I use the real money that comes from the real physicians that I work for and I transcribe for real patients and I do a REAL good job or else I wouldn't have my real good paycheck. Everything seems pretty realistic to me. 
ONE OF THE BEST NATIONALS!!
Transcend is an excellent company to work for, I have not had a bad experience with anyone there.
50 nationals?
Wowser. You must have a hard time remembering your reasons for resigning. My goodness. That is a large number of companies.
11 cpl--Nationals exist!!
Check with MDI in Gaithersburg, MD. If you are absolutely top-notch, they will pay you 11 cpl and you work 2 weekend days per month. You have until 11 PM to complete your lines (at least 1000 for full time and that may have changed) each day, after that, it is a "new day." You certainly can work from 11:01 to 7:00 AM but you don't have to. They are lovely people to work for. Pay is always on time--direct deposit. You would be a statutory employee.
I IC for two nationals, neither of which care that I sm
work for another--nothing to the contrary is stated in the contract. Thank you, though, for having the integrity to ask.
I work for 2 nationals and one knows
that I work for the other. I asked them when they were hiring me if it would be a conflict of interest and they said no. Only my team leader at my main job knows I work for the second job. The only problem I have is some days I get their programs mixed up. I'm constantly hitting control S to spellcheck and send the chart when it's F7 at the other job.
Really? It's the same as most nationals offer. sm
Considering I'm just a 3-1/2-year MT I thought it was good pay. 
Maybe I'm letting myself go too cheap?
Most nationals are going to have a lot of ESLs. sm
I was told by one MTSO owner that they needed American MTs to do that kind of stuff overseas because they couldn't ship that stuff out and expect any kind of quality in return. So as long as there are crappy ESL dictators, they will need American MTs.
I think it is funny that even their own people can't transcribe that stuff.
There are several big nationals in Florida with
hundreds of MTs. There is not just one company in FL with hundreds of MTs
Yep. Which is exactly why I'm giving up on nationals.
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been with 2 large nationals; will never do that again.
Much better with the smaller companies.
Nationals pay by the line, if you are an IC there is no OT - sm
You want more money, you work more basically. I don't know of any companie that pay hourly, it is all by the line, and incentive pay can up your salary. Some companies are better than others in terms of dictators and it is hit and miss until you find a good fit for yourself and your goals.
Largest Nationals?
What would you say the top 5 largest national companies are? Thanks!!
I prefer nationals. SM
I have worked years in hospital settings. It does have its advantages. Here's what I see the pros/cons are:
Inhouse Pros:
-- When you are done for the day, you're done!
-- You are not faced with family/friend disruption (see cons, too)
-- Company provides everything
-- Socializing is easy
-- Provides a change of environment
-- You have immediate access to assistance on all levels
-- HR and Payroll are usually in the same bldg and you can go down directly to them
-- Mgmt is readily available
-- You can usually view the entire workload and see how it is being distributed or balanced and have more input
-- Workload is limited to your employer's work only
Cons:
-- If you get too close to coworkers, they become intrustive on your work
-- If you don't share coworkers' perspectives, you can be given quite a cold shoulder treatment
-- You have to conform to a dress code usually
-- You have to leave the house in bad weather, park - sometimes walk a ways or even pay fo parking, etc.
-- Usually much more structured work and break times that are not too flexible
-- Usually paid hourly..sometimes with incentive plans. If you are really fast, probably not a good setup for you.
Love Nationals:
-- Work from home
-- Co provides equipment
-- Plenty of work and varieties of work
-- Paid on production -- great producers do very well
-- No worries about coworkers and social settings (getting along with annoying workers, etc.)
Yeah, those nationals are going away... NOT. SM
Hospitals and clinics outsource because they get sick of MTs saying Oh I won't work those days or that shift or something else. There are some good nationals and some bad nationals; don't lump 'em all into one.
Raiss with nationals
Anybody ever get a raise with a national company?.....seems like .08 cents forever
Nationals/Companies
I see a lot of griping/complaining/bashing regarding various companies on this board and quite frankly in 30 years of doing this, I have worked for most of them. I read complaints about ESL docs etc and quite frankly, I blame it on our educational system. When I was in school, I learned how to spell phonetically, therefore if a word had an f sound to it, I was taught that MAYBE that word could be spelled beginning with ph.
I didn't go to school to learn MT, I learned it on the job in a hospital with dictation tanks and an IBM Selectric typewriter. Right now, corporate America is going through a hard time, but yet I see MTs on here griping about the fact that they didn't get anything for Thanksgiving/Christmas/MTWeek -- well got news -- even corporate America isn't doing that any more and if they are, the companies are few and far between.
I get soooooooo tired of seeing posts to the effect of well, I only want to work M-F or what is acute care? GEEZ -- give me a break!!!! There are many companies, i.e., Sprint, Verizon, and others who offer 24/7 tech support/customer service, but I sure the heck don't hear them complaining. We are a nation now where MASSIVE corportate layoffs are going on and we are headed for a recession/depression. I would suggest that you quit complaining and posting negativity and be thankful that you have a job, no matter what.
Off the soapbox for now
I have worked for 6 nationals
one who could not keep enough MTs to carry the workload - forcing them to call EVERY SINGLE DAY I WAS OFF. I stopped answering the phone and found greener pastures where I may get called very occasionally but not EVERY off day.
Sick of nationals
Do not rule out larger private practices. I worked acute care for 13 years and then was outsourced. Then I spent 1 1/2 years messing around with Nationals and then found a position with a large orthopedic practice, 50+ docs. Very good benefits and I do work from home, though working from home was not an issue for me. With experience, these jobs are out there but you have to be willing to jump on them when they come up. Good luck.
Most nationals don't hire IC
Global Solution will not hire ICs. They called me to talk about a job but when I said I would not go employee that was the end of the conversation. I have turned down a few good jobs because one, they wanted me to be an employee or two, they wanted me to be an IC but treat me like an employee. It has sucked out there.
What nationals use Dictaphone ExText?
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Do you think nationals have licenses in all 50 states? Not. nm
I want to do a comparison now that everything seems to be changing at MQ and the other nationals. sm
what is the starting line count rate for acute care at some of the big nationals? or the range? How about for radiology or pathology? Do most have incentive programs and what do they consist of? If we could put it all together, we would eliminate a lot of posts and maybe have a reference for those of us looking so that we do not waste time, energy and the possibility of being lied to.
Here is what I know:
ETranz - 0.10 per line but my checks keep bouncing when I finally get paid very late. No incentive. No direct deposit.
Transolutions - 0.08 per line. They supply the equipment and computer (or did 2 years ago). Their system is a dinosaur. I always got paid on time.
I work for 2 nationals, and I think as long as you are an IC sm
no one really has a right to tell you that you cannot work for as many people as you want. However, as someone pointed out, most companies nowadays have you sign a contract with a no-solicitation clause, stating that you cannot solicit work from any of the accounts you have worked on for them for 1-2 years.
Still, I do not broadcast to either company that I am working for someone else. I simply let each company know the days I am available to work for them.
Hope this helps. Try not to let the nasty/negative posts get to you. There are always those in every group who take more joy from tearing someone down than listening and possibly lending a helping hand. Fortunately, they are NOT in the majority.
Good luck!
I've tried many, many nationals. Amphion is the only one
that I truly like. I think if you go to their website or check the Job Seekers board, there will be a rundown of their available benefits. They've given me everything I have asked for. I never run out of work. They don't pound me with ESLs all day long either.
Sick of Pompous Nationals
How can they sleep at night offshoring their work to make a buck knowing that the MTs who are hanging in there with them cannot pay their bills or feed their kids.
I hope they all fail.
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