All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
Posted By: kathy on 2007-05-30
In Reply to: I do not understand. I work for three....sm - Passing through
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
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Yes, it counts spaces. It does not count headers/footers. sm
Chartscript counts the demographics i.e. headers/footers. That may be where your difference is. ES used to count them, but no more. It is about 15% less lines now that they do not count them.
Spaces are counted.
From my experience, it is all in how the company sets it up to count i.e. footers, headers, spaces
etc.. I work on another platform but I noticed the same thing when I worked for a company and it would me 12 hours to get 1000 lines, and at the time, I had nothing to compare it to. Then, I thought..this is just wrong. Working 12 hours to make $80 is ridiculous so I quite. I went to work for another company...same platform... and routinely do 1500 to 2000 lines a day and I can tell the difference. You know when you do a whole page report and all you end up with is at the max 40 lines.. something is wrong. I'd say keep the best paying and dump the rest. They are obviously shorting you somewhere.
They most certainly do pay for spaces and headers.
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i agree, go, go, go (with or without spaces, headers, etc)
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What companies pay for spaces, headers and footers?
I've been an acute care Transcriptionist for 27 years now, pushing age 50, and
"burned out" I suppose. Anyway, looking to maybe do some easy multispecialty clinic work or pediatric clinic with little or no ESL, making at least 9 cpl with benefits, with 12-24 hour frame to finish a predetermined amount of lines.
Are there any jobs out there that would offer me this? 
Probably not getting paid for headers, footers, or spaces. Do you get
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Person below posted that she gets spaces and headers/footers.
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Does Diskriter pay for headers and footers, as well as spaces and returns? OR - sm
do they pay for just spaces and returns??
Thanks
TransHealth pays for spaces & headers on a 65 character line. sm
I recommend them highly. Stable company, good platform, great benefits. I'm happy there.
Hired by Cymed and told they did not pay for spaces, but paid for headers and footers. Just did a
check on the line count, and not only do they not pay for headers and footers, they also pay for 2 lines less than I typed.
I don't think headers or footers count (you don't have to type them)
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You cant go by that alone- some dont count headers and footers, etc.
You cant always go by Word count alone.
Not a discrepancy, just a lag time - they don't count headers or footers.
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headers footers lines
There are many different platforms that cheat you out of lines. If you saw what actually printed at the facility you would see a completely different page. The headers and footers you don't see on your page, magically appear - the lines that were single space are now double space and formatted I am sure to give the company the most $$$$. WHere in the world do you work at 10 cpl? Thats really good!
It would be hard to come up with 2 lines worth of headers..nm
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If you're with someone that doesn't count the demographic info or headers or footers, line cou
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Several out there don't count spaces now.
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They do NOT count spaces?
If they do not count spaces, then I'd find a way to disable my space bar. If I don't get paid for it, they ain't getting it!!!
They do count spaces but...
Many accounts line counts come through Ichart. I believe they weight characters to be less than a full character, or in other accounts they just take a flat percentage right off the top for headers and footers, which turns out to be many more lines than the headers/footers are worth.
I've worked on many accounts at OSi and they have never matched the word count (characters extended divided by 65) in Word. It is always, always less. On my particularly account, it is consistently between 9-10% less than the count in Word.
So why do I stay? I'm not sure. Is it better anywhere else? I'm also not sure.
Which companies do not count spaces?
I am wondering which ones are doing this that you know of. Thanks.
Think about it if you couldn't count spaces.... a lot of companies.....
don't count spaces. Header information we don't transcribe anyway so why get paid for it.
Do they count spaces? If not then it would be a lot less. Find out what the variables are from your
Good Luck. Had the same problem with a job I had to leave. I got half the lines I used to. Now with another job same thing, just a little more than half of what I used to. Still looking for a company with the fair line count (65 with spaces, headers, footers, etc). Tired of looking but still trying. Good luck to you.
usually 55 does not count spaces and that's a lot of unpaid characters. NM
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Lines w/o spaces
I think the 11 cpl would be very good. I did some quick figuring on a file (definitely not very scientific) and at 8 cpl with spaces, it equated to approximately .095 cpl without spaces. Hope this helps.
65 character lines with spaces
I don't think so. You're going to do a lot of typing to get all those lines. They don't pay spaces, no way!
You will have more lines with spaces counted.
Can you run a line count comparing a report with spaces and without spaces? That would give you an idea.
I think most places pay for spaces. I work for TransTech and they pay for both spaces
as well as punctuation. I would never work for an MTSO that doesn't.
they do not pay for spaces, line count not verified, check archives!! nm
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I went through this. It is a big difference. I lost about 30 to 40% of my lines w/no spaces.
Plus make sure your Expanders and normals (personal ones too) are included in the line count. I spent a couple of years realizing that I could not get over 1K lines a day and I always did around 2K. Thought I was losing my mind until I found out it was the no space thing. For me, it is better morale to see the bigger number, that is with spaces. LOL.
Keystrokes accounts all count the expanders as characters printed with spaces, not the abbreviation.
I have checked it, but we use Shorthand. What are you using?
Northeast Transcription says that FT is 32 hrs/1000 lpd, but 70-char.lines with all spaces and
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65 with spaces versus 65 without spaces; how to calculate?
Can someone tell me if you are getting 9 cents per 65-character line with spaces how much you would need to be paid per line to make the same amount per line if you are offered a ''65-character line without spaces?'' Thank you very much
So, if not spaces paid, what cpl would be comparable to at least 9 cpl w/spaces, do you know??
Thanks.
Headers
It is all the patient data, name, MR#, doc who dictated, time dictated etc., and no you are not paid for entering in any of it.
headers
If you fill in the header and then it ends up being a no-report/hang up, the rest being blank, Bayscribe shows that report as a 0 line count.
Headers
I would be cautious about headers and demographics. Too many clients want the transcription companies to do their research for them. A good company requires the demographics to be pretty well filled in before they go to transcription. I was with one company where I could spend up to 2 minutes trying to get the demographics, and then get stuck with a one-liner for a report. Some companies want you to use their pre-programmed headers from a drop-down list, and you get nothing for the trouble. Just my 2 cents worth.
Headers and footers
Have you spoken with your manager about this? Are you not getting the demographic info from the hospital?
YES they pay headers and footers nm
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Headers and Footers
This really hits my hot button and I think a lot of companies have found this as a big time way to rip off the MTs. I wonder how many are charging the client for this data which most times does not load in and even if it does you are still verifing that it is correct, doing carbon copies, etc. All clerical functions the MT is not being paid for. I just left a company to go to a company where we get headers, but no spaces. Even with no spaces, my production in 4 weeks is up almost 50% so I have no doubt it makes a significant difference. To actually get back to your question, the 30% would depend on the size of the document. It should not be a % but a flat line rate, such as 8 lines per document or whatever. 30% of a 3 100 line document would be 30 lines and no way would that be fair for headers/footers.
Headers and Footers
I nearly had a panic attack when my paycheck had $450.00 deducted from it. They kind of mentioned it in passing when I was hired there was a small deduction for information we did not type that went into the header and footer, but had no idea it would be 30% off my total line count.
Not about headers/footers
This goes above and beyond the headers/footer. Needless to say, they are safe with having to pay out a bonus. Not very many good standing employees are left from what I understand. Interesting, you sound exactly like a manager employed by them.
24% OFF FOR HEADERS/FOOTERS
167.28/683 X 100 = 24%
683 - my count (Tools/Word count/Lines)
admin.ichart count: 515.72
-167.28 difference
do they pay for headers and footers for ER?
Headers/footers
They don't pay for them but you don't have to type them. Line counting appears to be what you would expect and I think is accurate.
No headers/footers
Since you don't actually type the header/footer, makes sense you don't get paid for them. If you have to look up an ID or something it really only takes a few seconds, so that's not a problem. I've been with them over a year. My production went up. It was a good move for me. They are very honest with their MTs and will address any concerns you may have. Of note, QA and Tech support are really good. Pay is on time, every time. Good incentives.
any companies pay for headers, etc.
new and wanted to know if headers are paid.
eScription Headers
It depends on the MTSO and the account. eScription is a software company that provides a platform to hospitals. The company that you work for determines how you are paid.
Headers/Footers
I agree with you about the headers and footers. Did a recent count and found it to be about 13%. That is excessively high when losing time looking up demos because they are too lazy to input the info. This header/foot thing has gotten worse. I believe I had previously figured 11%. It is morally wrong to take out a percentage. A true character count would count the whole amount and take out for whatever is pre-printed on the page. This is especially horrible when doing 30, 40 or 50 small jobs, don't you think?
Headers and footers
None anymore probably, but that's not the point. When you work for companies that count lines at the remote IC site, go ahead and subtract those lines from your total at Control I. Does 13% difference seem fair to you? Don't you think a fairer thing would be an actual count of characters subtracted?
If they don't pay for headers/footers, it's
easy enough to highlight & delete the block before running the count... It's not rocket science.
they said they pay headers and footers at Transcend??
You better double check that.
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