ALSO, the plumber sets the price. So this plumber/MT analogy
Posted By: isn't quite meshing, is it? nm on 2009-02-06
In Reply to: A plumber also is the one who will tell you WHEN he is going to - be at your house to work, so your argument's mo
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PLUS, a plumber sets his own hours and wages! As far as MT wages,
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A plumber also is the one who will tell you WHEN he is going to
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As IC, you couldnt tell plumber he can work on your
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Works same way as a plumber. You are your boss,
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What law? Do you send tax papers to plumber for
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If plumber wants worok graveyard, you don't hire him.
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Excuse me? You find me a painter or plumber
who has not had 25 jobs in as many years as I have been doing this. You are one small-minded individual.
Just as ;you dont withhold plumber taxes, MTSO
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My plumber doesn't do work for me on a daily basis. .sm
In my state, we need to get a 1099 if we make over $1000 as an IC. I have never paid a plumber that much money, thank goodness!
let's try this analogy,
Like I am a plow horse and MQ is the guy on the wagon with the whip at my back. Sorry but that's how I feel. I don't mind pulling the wagon--just get the damn whip off my back!! Hahaha.
That's an insane analogy.
We're not talking trying something that "may" taste good to some. We're talking people's livelihoods here. Some can't afford to just "try it" if they're living paycheck to paycheck.
Maybe my analogy was "insane," BUT..
not every company is well liked by all MTs. If I listened to every gripe and groan on here, I'd be in a different business, BUT...I'm happy with Transcend and intend to stay. Sorry it didn't work for you.
There are 2 sets of people in MT--SM
The ones who support themselves and/or families and who need a steady work situation, preferably with decent, affordable benefits...and who will work like the dickens to make sure their production is as high as they can get it in order to make the amount of $ they need. These are the people who need REGULAR PAYCHECKS THEY CAN COUNT ON and we don't care how nice you are if you're not paying us.
Then there is the other set--2nd incomes for the family, don't really want to work more than 1 or 2 hours a day (not dictation hours, total work hours) and who really don't care about meeting production goals or TAT goals. These are the people looking for CARING, NICE, companies who are FLEXIBLE and think it's just great when there is no work as long as their manager/MTSO is NICE to them.
lol Good analogy.
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GREAT ANALOGY!!
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WOW!! That's not just 2 cents, that's an analogy
that I think is frighteningly TRUE. I don't know why I never looked at the MT business by holding it up to the mirror of domestic violence, but you are RIGHT - it's exactly the same means of control. And it doesn't even have to be done in a mean way, either. How many of us think we're doggone LUCKY to have our pittance-paying MT jobs?
And I do mean PITTANCE! Last night when I finished my shift, I was looking at different types of jobs that were available. And get this -- I found a job listing for one of those 'sign-wavers' you see on street corners (always on the hottest days or the wettest ones, it seems), pays $11 an hour. That's $3 an hour MORE than I'm currently making as an MT with almost 35 years of experience.
First of all, it is up to the company who sets the
standards and formats for how you do the work. On the VR I use, we have numbering all to the left hand margin. If not done by VR in the proper way, WE as the transcriptions KNOW to change and we do. That is the fault of the person editing to change. VR is not 100% error proof, just like a human is not 100% error proof.
I agree with your analogy, however--sm
one does not need to respond in kind to something that they perceive as rude. It only makes matters worse. Perhaps she WAS looking for the swarm of bee responses that she received, but that does not make the swarm of bees correct in how they handled it either. My point is that there is just too much *eagerness* to attack others on this board. It appears that some are to the point of salivating at the opportunity to do so and will go to any lengths, picking apart posts that *annoy* them, searching for the opportunity to let loose their viciousness. It is just plain sickening how some people treat other people. now this bee is outa here too. I have had my say.
No it's not new to VR, just 2 sets of unprinted
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Your employer sets the parameters.
They determine what characters are counted in your lines and how many characters equate to a line.
No, it doesn't cheat anyone. It is set by the values it is loaded with.
it is NOT MDI any longer!!!!! Transcend sets sm
policy, rates and everything else.
the company sets the keys - ask your job. It is not the phone.
I have worked on several accounts via C-phone and each acocunt had it set their own way - similar - but not exact. Companies can calibrate each gal differently as well such as not being able to skip jobs, among other things.
ask you supervisor.
I love your analogy of the fence painter s/m
You are right on. Some of us are old enough to remember when we worked directly for the hospital. Rarely, if ever, was there a shortage of work. There is no shortage now either regardless of the economy. What there is is an oversupply of typists. With the health care reform on the table, hospitals need to cut costs associated with their necessary medical record department. Are they saving money by outsourcing? I think not.
Only the American workers in any industry can change the way they are treated. They must band together by whatever means, not necessarily unionization per se. While it is about unionization, I would suggest everyone get and watch the movie Norma Rae. The point is change doesn't happen without those who are willing to make personal sacrifices to see it happen.
You can have 2 sets of headings in ShortHand, ones that are bolded and others that are plain. I had
accounts like that also, one using bold headings and the other not. For the bold headings, I would put maybe an x or a number behind the shortcut, such as HPIx for bold and HPIxx for without bold, whatever suits your fancy.
LOL I totally agree! I love your cat versus hairball analogy! :-) nm
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From my experience, it is all in how the company sets it up to count i.e. footers, headers, spaces
etc.. I work on another platform but I noticed the same thing when I worked for a company and it would me 12 hours to get 1000 lines, and at the time, I had nothing to compare it to. Then, I thought..this is just wrong. Working 12 hours to make $80 is ridiculous so I quite. I went to work for another company...same platform... and routinely do 1500 to 2000 lines a day and I can tell the difference. You know when you do a whole page report and all you end up with is at the max 40 lines.. something is wrong. I'd say keep the best paying and dump the rest. They are obviously shorting you somewhere.
for that price?
so if they were to pay you what you thought would be worth it, you would write an MT training program for people in India? That's nice. Don't complain that we are being treated as professionals and that our career has gone downhill when people like you are contributing factors to all of it.
we need to set our price
Upon looking at the job boards, I notice they want us to have 10 years' experience but want to pay only 7-8 cents a line.
It's time we decide on OUR bottom line.
What is the least we will accept as a group for transcription and ASR?
I say no LESS than 8.5 cents a line for transcription and no LESS than 5.5 cents for voice. We do not need to go any lower than that, if maybe that it even too low for some of you out there? I want to hear from you.
We MUST follow this up with action, or nonaction as it were, by not accepting any job for less than our bottom line.
Let's set a new standard for ourselves.
Where did she mention a price?
I didn't see a line rate posted. Usually a rate like 7 cpl is a temporary rate just to see if the person has the experience they claim (9 times out of 10 they don't) or it's temporary rate to offset the cost of editing of new hires.
Price fixing
It seems that ever since AAMT suggested that the line count should be characters divided by 65 (which cut our gross line pay by 1/3), clients have been insisting that we count that way. So now Escription comes along and tells the client the same thing and they want us to change the way we count. It seems to be there are some antitrust issues lurking here to be plumbed. Isn't that called price fixing? And wouldn't one think that we should check on it like with the attorney general?
price point?
Is that a nice way of saying cheap?
I think you are wrong. Everyone has a price. I think she would be sick of all of this by now. xx
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This is the price of doing business. If there weren't
something in it for you, you wouldn't be doing it - whether it be money, ego, prestinge, etc.
she didn't mention a price, i said
If you send a professional resume, go through the trouble of testing, passing it with flying colors, 7 cpl should not be anywhere in the offer. Pay a professional what a profession is worth from day one.
You can make more -- negotiate your price. sm
Dorothy is one of the few that pays MTs for their experience and quality.
Good luck!
The competition is in the price NOT quality.
Editors clean up American MTs and Indian MTs. Bottom line is COST!!! DUH! It is just like everything else being made overseas in China, Mexico...IT IS CHEAPER THERE!
Contact me for good price
$60.00 plus shipping for StartStop foot pedal. I got it when I worked for SoftScript before, so know it works well with their program.
Just remember.....everything/anything is for sale for the right price sm
No matter what, everything and anything has a price tag. Good luck to all KS MTs.
Price fixing does not need to be accepted and should not
I see, 5, 6, 7, 8 and should not be accepted. Get your calculater out. Figure out what that would be per hour. Com'on this is a highly highly skilled profession, not just anybody can do it, takes year YEARS and you never know it all, never.
It seems like price fixing in t this industry.
They all pay the same unlivable wages. Anybody know a lawyer? Ask about a price-fixing lawsuit.
I'm beginning to believe its price fixing
Seems like reps from all the major MTSOs sat down, came up with a so-called competitive rate, and decided to all cut wages at approximately the same time - so there's really nowhere else to go when MTs want to leave! Greed! Plain and simple!
How can you compete with the big-company price-wars? - nm
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Forgot to say that I value accuracy over speed...sure I could go fasther but at what price? NM
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You're forgetting the Consumer Price Index has gone up 30% since the 90s
And as for doing well in VR, see this old post about why some people do well and some do not...just because you lucked out doesn't mean others didn't get screwed, and they DO have a right to complain.
http://forum.mtstars.com/main/v/1/131001.html
To quote: *In any of these usually extensive discussions about VR, most complain about how broke they are, and there are always one or two who say they're doing well with VR.
Well, the reason is not that one group is exaggerating or the other group is lying. It's because there are good systems and bad systems, and it's a crapshoot as to which one any of us ends up with.*
So enjoy your $16/hour. With your dearth of sympathy for those less fortunate than you, I'm guessing you'd also step over a homeless man in the street without a second thought.
yeah and the MTSO still charging full price for the work
Most physicians/hospitals don't even know they're dictating into VR so still paying full-on transcription prices while the nationals/MTSOs cut the MT's salary in half. Nice huh?
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