AAMT did not change "good English" and terminology, sm
Posted By: nfm on 2007-06-12
In Reply to: The creation of AAMT has been - CMT, like it or not
The changes originated with the American Medical Association, the Chicago Manual of Style, as well as other references from which the AAMT BOS is compiled.
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I believe AAMT guidelines is 65 chars. with spaces. Maybe go to aamt.org and see if you can
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not sure about "good" but sm
there have been a lot of rad positions on MTdaily.com The MTjobs.com if free entry. Look there might find something good. They seem to be paying higher than MTing. One about a month ago ws 14 a line.
This "good" pay is only for ICs
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Which branch of MD-IT is the "good one"
but want to apply to the right branch. Thanks in advance.
Oh, yeah. Because you are so "good."
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get the terminology right
How do I get you alone? You know what that means.
How do I get you along? Kick you to the curb.
lol
While I don't think the terminology
from clinic to hospital, I think the biggest difference is in the quality of the dictations. You'll have umpteen ESLs, residents, NPs, PAs dictating and it's just a faster paced environment. While they can be more involved (the H&Ps and consults) at the hospital level, you'd probably need to make sure you have a good grasp of laboratory terminology, every speciality, etc. It's basically just more variety in terms of specialites and then add in the dozens (if you're lucky) to 100s of different dictators on an acute care account. If you've done the clinic work for 20 years, have you tried at least testing to see where you are and possibly get a feel for how easily you could make the transition?
NOT same terminology
One of the most difficult things about typing op notes is having thorough knowledge of the equipment used in surgical procedures,as well as the terminology used in the procedures themselves. You do NOT find this in clinic notes. Are you defining acute care as only histories and physicals and consults? I have always done acute care and have never had a job where I didn't do ops.
Why did you leave that "good company" TT
Which company did you find better than TT?
Probably not too much different terminology wise, sm
but, as you know, differ from dictator to dictator. There wouldn't be any pediatrics in internal medicine.
Very easy as far as terminology SM
but sometimes the subject matter is hard, like abused kids. On the flip side, sometimes very interesting or wild subject matter! Long reports. Mostly straight typing with very few terms to learn. You should have no problem if your dictators are good. Have fun!
Well, judging by your terminology,
I'd say you were with MQ currently. As a fellow MQer (just gave notice yesterday), I picked up on the c-pool term ASAP. At any rate, I also have 10 years experience and do about the same work types you do. I've interviewed with 3 different companies in the last few months and the offers ranged from 8.5 to 9.5. Benefits on the lower offer and IC status on the higher offer. I did notice that the companies were more interested in my cardiology procedures more than anything, so if you have that experience, you might want to bring it to their attention. I didn't push much with the lower offer since it required a schedule and 30+ hours per week, etc, which I really don't want. I did push on the higher offer to see if I could get an increase if I maintained a higher line count than the minimum required and got it.
Hope this info helps your search. Gotta get outta that place!!! 
This is basic medical terminology 101.
Your expertise in medical terminology
Your expertise in medical terminology, English grammar, spelling, anatomy, medications, laboratory values, etc., is what you are being compensated for.
Well, if all editors do is fill in the blanks, then Ok for low rate. But if they actually have to listen, read the entire report, and make corrections, they are spending JUST AS MUCH TIME as if they had typed it! It is the amount of time spent doing the job that is being re-imbursed not the number of characters/lines. The character/lines is just the method to measure your time and what your time is worth based on your experience/knowlege/ability. An experienced MT should be making $30-40/hr and an IC and the same minus benefits if employee. If the services cannot get the contracts at this price, then they are failures and why work for them?
I wasn't trying to be a smart-aleck about the "good luck" sm
part - I truly wish everyone could get what they need at what is a fundamentally good company (in my opinion). I'm sorry your STM isn't helping. Can you try again with someone else in the company?
(PS - I saw her today at the reception, glass of wine in her hand. haha)
They said we'd have a choice BUT you'd have to have a "good reason" to stay an IC/stat.
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I agree in part, if the test is difficult only due to the terminology, sm
but if it is difficult due to the quality of the sound or the fact that the dictator talks at the speed of light and/or has some ESL accent so thick and hard to decipher that no one can understand him/her, then I would pass as I would think that represents the type of dictation I would be transcribing on a daily basis. Ironically, it is usually a company with that type of work that offers you 7 cpl and asks for MTs with tons of experience. I have over 30 years of experience, and I just say no thanks.
Just my opinion ...... I feel lucky to have found what I consider to be a great full-time job as well as a great part-time job, but I have sure seen lots of crummy dictation while testing as well as laughable pay scales.
Psych work is full of modern slang and terminology.
I can see both sides of this issue. First, those are nonmedical terms and wouldn't constitute a serious error. However, it's clear that the test taker did not even do her research on unfamiliar terminology.
Whoa...What???!!?? English please?
English. We cant help MQ got themselves into the situation they are in. They did it all alone.
You sould like an ESL to me. Your English
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and English should be capitalized
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''better English''
Your ignorance is as laughable as your arrogance! ''Better English'' is just the tip of the iceberg as far as what the experienced American MT ''knows''--for starters, probably as much anatomy, physiology, and pharmacology as the so-called ''physicians'' from your wonderful part of the world. You ''have an open mind'' when YOUR jobs are given away to unqualified people by greedy corporations whose only motivation is their own profit.
There are a lot who also do not know basic English skills. Example: (sm)
the difference between their, there, and they're. Affect, effect. Basic skills of sentence structure. Just knowing some medical words does not make you a good MT.
I had one that would start out in English (with the thickest sm
accent you have ever heard, then switch over to spanish in the middle of a sentence. Did I mention I don't speak spanish?
King's english is hogwash. What Dr. do you know that
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I'm guessing English is your second language? I would say this is a
disservice to the MT as well as the companies you are going to service. Nothing worse than someone trying to sail the ship who hasn't ever been near the water.
No, but I am an educated English speaker 24/7.
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I agree. She cannot understand English
.. no matter how many times you say the same thing. You have to have a phone convo with her because she can't understand emails.
ESLs on VR as opposed to English
at the hospital where I work makes absolutely no difference at all, in fact if not for VR and all the ESLs we have now, would probaby be pulling my hair out trying to figure out what they are trying to say. ESLs on Escription is as good as with the perfect speaking English so again, the system you have, how MTs train and the speaker makes no difference in how VR gets it. You need a good platform and then you can make a good salary on it.
I really don't know what part of the English language they do not get.. I think the word NO
comes to mind. I would not even be working that day when I'd get an IM, can you do a STAT? and I'd tell them no that I was heading out the door, so, your going to do it? and again, NO.. I said I'm heading out the door. This would go on until I finally had to click the IM off. I felt badgered and I am not sure how much was just them not understanding or just being pushy. There is a fine line and I got tired of it so I quit.
I have an A.A. degree in English from a 'real' college that
Sounds like AHDI ('All Hindi-speaking Dufuses International') is just trying to find another way to lure MTs into wasting their money on their ridiculous 'credential'.
And if they did elevate the credential to the equivalent of a degree, then they'd have to also acknowledge that MTs be PAID as 'professionals', as well.
I laugh every time I read something that group generates - it gets more ridiculous every year, doesn't it?
"QA manager needs to go back to school for English 101"
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Whaaat? Are you sure this is English? Your sentences are a word salad. What do you mean?....nm
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I agree. You still have to know punctuation, proper English, tenses, sentence structure, etc. Show
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I wouldn't transcribe English speaking dictators for 6 cents per line. She is CRAZY.
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Nothing will change unless we make it change..SM
As long as we accept the exploitation that this MT profession has reduced us to, it will keep going on. The top of this is the outsourcing.... well, get your legislators involved....better yet, the MEDIA. How many patients know their private medical information is being outsourced to halfway around the world? The squeeky wheel gets the grease. Do the patients know that their info won't be sold by some unscrupulous MT (halfway around the globe) to insurance companies, etc., making all this Medical records privacy a joke. It's not just our T-shirts being made in other countries; it's our most personal, private medical information, of which the public is not being made aware of. Not to speak of undercutting out profession to the bare bone. Granted, most US MTs are willing to work below market wage just to have a job, especially in economically-deprived areas, where outside jobs are scarce, and kids need to be fed and mortgages need to be paid. MTSOs know this. I'll bet they'll be the first to lobby against any action against outsourcing. (Wouldn't you be...if you got people to work for pennies while you're raking in the big $$$'s ? Still, notwithstanding the outsourcing problem, we're still going along with all the BS...working for pennies, whatever the client wants, he gets... ever notice how all of the MTSO flak seems to be re. unpaid work...mostly, demographic issues we're not even paid for... bec. It has to be done.. Part of the job... The client put the wrong info but we have to correct it...all unpaid work. Just give me a job with nothing but straight transcription, w/o the unpaid/demo. flak..I'll take it even at the present, absurd pennies-per-line state of the profession.
It's "well." You're paid "well," not "good."
You get "good pay," and you're "paid well."
And the use of an apostrophe is required in ALL "n't" words. Not even going to try to tackle the balance of the punctuation.
Transcend obviously prefers quantity over quality these days.
Nothing much... can AAMT do anything?
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She said AMA not AAMT, and (sm)
they will be taking American out of the name, as there is a committe in place to work on a name change for the organization.
AAMT
Not only is not AAMT not ashamed of what they do, they are PROUD of it! And MTs think AAMT cares about them? They're only in it for the money, kids.
AAMT
And you trust HIM? AAMT has gotten to be one of those companies who are out to make money, be it from India, Phillipines, who have you. Everything that falls from his mouth is NOT gold. Read 05/11/2006 post for notice on India trying to get him to come over - I would bet my bottom dollar this wouldn't be his first trip.
AAMT
How about if everyone quits supporting AAMT as in stop paying dues and stop signing up for their useless CMT exam? The only thing greed understands is cutting off their money. And as for the politicians, how about FIRING them? Useless bunch of scumbags anyhow. Republican or Democrat, they're all alike. We need a leader...anyone remember hearing about the Boston Tea Party? That worked then, it'll work now.
AAMT
As of right now, I am canceling. Was going to take their CMT test, but why can't another company be started or asked to create a CMT exam? Why is it only the AAMT that has the exam? I will no longer have anything to do with AAMT on a national or local basis. I have given them enough of my money for a magazine that comes four times a year and a discount to go to the national meeting. Big deal. It's not enough.
AAMT
One reason offering offshore membership is because they sre losing American MT members. Whole group needs to undergo complete change.
AAMT and CMT
In reality, the CMT does not open all that many doors. All companies care about is if you can get the job done properly and correctly. The CMT is nice but by no means necessary.
AAMT
If AAMT members really canceled rather than just talked about it, we might get somewhere. I know so many who just complain.
AAMT
You are SO right. AAMT needs to take an A out of their name. I dropped out years ago, after being certified for 15+ years, when what's-her-name spent her time flying around the country going to conventions, etc., on our increased dues money and the organization stopped dead in their tracks. AAMT never did anything for me, but I was proud of my certification (which means crap now). My work ethics and quality of my work are, and have been my own and the companies that I have worked for have been smart enough to realize that I am a person who knows what they are doing and that I take pride in my work. AAMT did not do that for me. I did that for myself and all AAMT did was give me a piece of paper that said basically the same thing. I am nearing the end of my job years and I'm glad because this job is NOT what it used to be and I believe with all my heart AAMT is largely to blame for lowering their standards, increasing their dues and not standing up for the integrity of CMTs in THIS country. They should have been fighting to keep transcription here and not allowed the travesty that happened to use to have gone unaswered. The companies who bought into this concept and the hospitals need to remember - you get what you pay for and the hospitals who are allowing sensitive, LEGAL documents to be shipped overseas to people who can't even spell USA let alone understand anyone from here, are going to find their little backside cheeks bitten some day and it can't happen too soon. And for the future reference, I ALWAYS bought Dell. No more. My American dollars go to American made products. My local guy made my last computer. I know the components were probably made in a sweatshop somewhere, but I get an English-speaking person when I call their place of business. AAMT and outsourcing companies, can bite me.
AAMT
AMEN, SISTER. I have been an MT for over 35 years and I cannot think of one thing that the AAMT has ever done for me. I am not a CMT; my college education, (at the time when English grammar and usage were still of paramount importance), and 4 years of high school Latin got me my first MT job. That, plus a lot of hard work on my part, continues to get me jobs. I have worked at several facilities that never heard of AAMT and many others that wouldn't have paid me a penny more if I was certified. I don't care what rhetoric AAMT wants to use as far as MT being a respeceted profession and all that garbage. The fact is we are still the ladies in the typing pool as far as most clients are concerned and we are treated as such paid accordingly. AAMT has done nothing to try to change this image and I am actually making less money now than I was 10 years ago. AAMT is all about money...for it, not for us. As far as I'm concerned, it belongs in the same category as the rest of the big corporations out to screw the American Worker any way they can. Yet we can't blame it all on AAMT. We, to some extent, are responsible for what has happened to us. Right now, there is a lot of talk about doing things to try and remedy our situation because of Heartland. There has been a lot of talk before and nothing has come of it. I do hope this time people will do what they are saying they will do and write to politicians, letters to editors, etc. Michael Moore is making his next film about the healthcare industry and is asking for horror stories on his web site. I sent him 12 pages a a couple months ago. Also, do most of you know that you can join the National Writer's Union (www.nwu.org)? I am a member and feel that the cost of joining and paying the dues are well worth it, particularly because I can get health insurance through it. The NWU would like to work on behalf of MTs, but there are very few MTs who belong to it. No matter how you may feel about unions, you must agree that we need as many people and organizations on our side as we can ge right now. I do not have lot of faith in the politicians at this point, and none whatsoever in the current adminstration in Washington DC. By all means, write the politicans, but don't expect too much from them. I think letters to editors, and I am talking A LOT of letters to A LOT of papers, are a better idea. Hospital and clinic admistrators read the papers, as do their medical staff. Here are a couple useful sites: www.usnpl.com and www.refdesk.com. Also, you might want to talk to the newspeople at your local TV stations. Here's hoping that THIS TIME we can make enough noise to get the hearing that we have needed and deserved for so long.
Who says so? The AAMT?
THEY say who can and can't be certified? THEY say they're the only ones who can give certification? THEY say you're not certified unless you do it through them (AAMT)? Big, fat, hairy deal!!!!!!!!!! I say, screw 'em! They have no control over my life. They can't tell me what I can and can't call myself. I'll call myself The Queen MT if I freakin' feel like it--and there's not a dam* thing they can do about it! I have had it up to HEEEEEEEEEEERE with the AAMT!!!!!!!!!! Sheesh.
AAMT
Yea to everybody canceling.
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