8 cpl for standard and 3 cpl for VR - that's a crock!
Posted By: mtme on 2009-06-08
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There is little to no standard typing for which you can make 8 cpl. It is 90/10 in favor of VR. If you buy into the slick sales job the VR snake oil vendors put forth and can actually double your output per hour, you are making 6 cpl. What a joke!
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What a crock.
Mr Nair clarified that the medical transcription work was moving from the US to India not because of any cost advantage but because of the growing shortage in the availability of medical transcription personnel in the US.
Oh that is the biggest bunch of **** I've ever heard. 
Well, I can't say it is or is not a crock but s/m
if these posters actually read the email (which I didn't bother to do after I got the one saying to ignore it,) then I seriously doubt they are disgruntled ex-employees. For myself, I'm taking a wait and see approach. I don't have insurance through TT so if that's all it's about, it shouldn't affect me personally. I also have a plan B (called retirement) so nothing really affects me. When I read these boards (not just about TT), my heart does go out to MTs who have to make a living. It isn't just the MT companies, it's ALL industries. My husband is a retired truck driver (Teamster) with over $3000 in retirement checks each month plus insurance. Even that isn't safe. The future retiring Teamsters have seen their retirement age raised to the point they will most likely be lucky if their eyesight is still good enough for them to drive a truck! Benefits for future retirees have been cut (less money, plus $1100 per month for insurance). So we sit here waiting to see how long it will be before they cut benefits for current retirees. THIS COUNTRY IS IN A MELL OF A HESS and we have our politicians to thank.
What a Crock
Michelle wrote that because she is a family member of the owner, so wouldn't say good things about a company! LOL
What a CROCK!
I was out of work for MONTHS. Working 6 days a week, 11, 12, 13, 14 hours a day trying to get a decent paycheck. And that VR crap, trying to convince us to take YET ANOTHER cut in pay to line their pockets. OK, yeah, add me to the lawsuit. Boy, for $294.50, you must feel great, TT, at filing this lawsuit against one of your workers for expressing their opinion. $294.50... I suspect that you have lost TEN, 100, 1000 TIMES THAT AMOUNT in goodwill in the MT world.
What nonsense. Develop a thicker skin and buck up. There is a reason people post on here their opinions about what is going on at TT: Because you tell us NOTHING!!!!!
Now, while we are at it, BITE ME!
What's a crock?
I simply stated my experience with TT. I have nothing to complain about, not even VR. I make the same money I was making before I started doing VR, although I prefer typing over editing. I have enough work. If you were out of work for months, had to work 6 days a week, 11-14 hours a day, you should have left and found another job. I would have.
This whole conversation is a crock
set up by disgruntled exemployees no doubt. TT does something good to lower insurance prices and you have to counteract that good move with this rumor. If you work for TT it says in the employee handbook NO RUMORS. Get that? Now the truth from where I see it: TT went to this company to get better insurance at a lower price, which is what you were wanting months ago when you started other rumors instead of waiting. This company is stricter when they act as umbrella for little companies in that they happen to do background checks. Big deal. You have something to hide? I don't care. I have worked for another company which did the exact same thing, and I had to fill out paperwork there. They did it for the same reason, because struggling medium sized companies need to get under an umbrella of many companies to get their employees good rates. So, go ahead, quit. More work for me. And go ahead, don't apply and listen to these rumors. If you would rather hear rumors on a board from strangers, rather than actually calling the company and asking them, then you need to think about your career. I am not an MTSO or management. I have been in the biz a long time. And the packets BTW were not finalized sent out in the mail yet, they were an e mail, and will be corrected ASAP. Maybe there were time constraints on the clerk at the new company so they could get you in quickly for the lower rate. Brother. This board is pathetic. It feeds on rumors rather than encouraging good practices like doublechecking details or using common sense. What a crock this whole conversation is IMHO.
Now that's the biggest crock I have heard yet!
The only reason anyone works is for money. If they have money, they usually don't work. Nobody is doing this for charity or putting themselves last for a lousy recruting job? Please! LOL!
Oh please, that's a crock. I have savings and husband, but I still
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What a crock that is and I question the legality of it. nm
BOS is a crock. Basic grammer/spelling all that is
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That would be for standard
transcription, editing is less.
The standard used to be.. SM
10 lines for every minute, so if that still stands, then that would be correct
60 = 600.
WE CAN SET A NEW STANDARD!!!!!
All right, calling ALL MTs!!!!! It's time for a very, VERY important step in getting our industry back in line with the skill set it takes. From now on when looking for more work or a new job, JUST SAY NO! to low line rates. If we keep letting them jerk us around and try to pay 1990s wages, they'll keep doing it. There are enough of us here to start the ball rolling in the right direction, and if we don't, we might as well get a job at McDonalds!
It's time to set some standards that are realistic for what we bring to the table. If you have 5 to 10 years of experience, 7.5 to 8 cpl should be the rock bottom. At 10+ years 8.5 to 9 cpl should be the standard, etc. MTs UNITE!
NOW HEAR THIS, MTSOs...it's time to start bidding work higher because within the next year, you'll have MTs who will only laugh and ask, Are you SERIOUS!??? if you try to offer us the wages we were making 20 years ago. I mean come ON...no one in their right mind works for less money than when they started out way back when.
Fellow MTs, it's up to us to change the industry standards. If you aren't up to the task to be proactive, it's time to stop whining and take the beating. I don't think any of us professionals are willing to do that...at least I'm not!
300-400 lph standard?!
I am in the same boat you are, I can type standard at around 240-260 on a good day. I also do VR and can do up to 500-600 lph but VR you get paid much less.
All in all I like standard much better, it does hurt like *&%$ at the end of the day but time flies by for me and I have a chronic problem of boredom when I work VR and I keep checking the clock and my lines just waiting to be done.
I make the same whether I am doing VR or standard, trust me, I have checked, I just earn more with standard because I get in a zone and type like a madwoman and like I said, time goes by very fast which I like.
VBC Standard
Katherine, I am just passing on information in case there are those MTs that have not heard of VBC. You are not expected to do anything. This was merely an informational memo. NO PAY CUT NO ADDITIONAL ACCOUNT, Just trying to do a good thing by giving info where none might not be available. Thanks Linda
No, it is not standard. Those are
the crappy companies with horrible pay. 2-3 cpl is most definitely NOT the standard. Geez people.
I was offered what seems to be the standard.
Considering it will be an OP account, I figure I can make good use of normals, etc. and make some good money.
Your standard response ... sm
I've seen the same reply for years. Yet the chaos continues.
I think the industry standard is using
independent contractors and you get neither vacation or sick pay.
Why would they? The standard is by the line.
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I think this is probably the industry standard
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I think this is pretty standard, unfortunately. sm
When I worked in-house we the option of A) Work an 8-hour shift with only one 30-minute break or B) Work an 8-1/2-hour shift with a 1-hour break (or two 15-minute and one 30-minute). I think, however, most places require you to work 8-1/2 if you are going to take a 30 minute break...seems like that is against the law, but I don't know. I thought you were entitled to two 15-minute breaks for an 8-hour shift.
Actually, with computers, it's a standard to only
Two spaces were used with typewriters to make a document easier to read, but computers have proportional fonts, so the extra spacing after punctuation is no longer necessary. One space has been rule in desktop publishing and it's actually easier to read, IMO, than 2 spaces. It's definitely hard to get used to at first, but it's actually easier once you do and saves keystrokes. Of course, if you've been using 2 and getting paid for the extra space, you'll lose out, but most places seem to prefer one space now. You can sometimes set grammar checks to watch for 2 spaces and alert you so you can change it to only 1. I know Word has that option and it does help when you are transitioning.
standard keyboard
welcome aboard
standard lines
Okay - I have posted about this before when we first found out our company PM was going to start paying 2 cpl for ALL standard lines including headings!! A couple of days ago this really started and I am really iritated! Is this a common practice now for MT companies? Yes the headings may come up in the software automatically, but we are also having to spend lots of time changing the templates to the correct ones, changing info that is entered wrong like dates of service etc. and also Emdat is sooo slow half the time between notes!! So, I was under the assumption that even though you have headings and they, for the most part, are standard lines, that it kind of helps cover the time it takes us to fix the templates and stuff like that!! Am I way out in left field here? What do you all think? Im not going to be able to work for a company that does this, it will really cut our pay quite a bit!! Not too mention a letter was sent out to all explaining that they could lose the accounts because of off shore lower prices, whatever if they did not change to this.....but in the same email they slipped up and said that they have always given the doctors the 2cpl rate on standard headings and had not passed it on to us until now....well then they just screwed up because if that be the case they were not in danger of losing the accounts when they were already giving them the discount, they just wanted more money in their pockets and taking it away from the MT in this economy, seems pretty crappy to me! It seems like do more and we will pay you less, definitely time to find a new job!!
standard lines
They are paying the regular 8 cpl for what you straight type, but headings, templates, macros etc. are considered standard lines and are paid at 2cpl. So you still lose money because all of your Chief complaint, HPI etc. are all paid at 2 cpl. it will add up
double standard
Since you're so knowledgeable about how to treat people and what's insensitive you surely know that you came off looking like the bigger jerk with your condescending, bullying way of making your point. There are ways of educating people without making them feel bad about something that was unintentional to start with. I don't know if you actually have a double standard or are just a bully, but I have much more respect for the OP as a person since she admitted her mistake and apologized and you still wouldn't let it go. You may be an expert on PC, but it seems a little phony when you present it in such a hateful way. Grow up.
Each company has their own standard
for this. I have worked for companies where you were on it 3 days and if okay then you were released. The Q was known for telling you to do 3 to 5 reports, send for full QA and then take off--all with absolutely no feed back. Most, however, take it on an individual basis. If you are getting conflicting info from different people, refer all to your supervisor and ask which is correct. If it is different feedback from different accounts, each probably has their own way of doing things.
To the poster who said 2-3 cpl is standard for VR:
Don't fall for it. It most certainly is NOT standard for VR. From what I've seen, the standard rate for VR seems to be about 60% of your regular line rate for straight typing. I was working for Alltype when they tried to force feed us the line that 3 cpl is the standard and IMO that's insane. Also IMO, anyone who tries to pay 3 cpl across the board without taking into consideration the length of experience on VR and the straight typing rate is ripping you off.
An Industry Double Standard??
All of the posts about some potential blacklist started me thinking this week. First, let me say I don't think one exists, and I do think there is an informal network where someone any of us may have worked with might work at a company or whatever and information is shared. But here's my question.
While I don't believe in a blacklist concept, we DO seem to have that with employers here. So my question is, what's the difference? Why is it okay for MTs to say DO NOT work here... and it's not okay for an employer to say DO NOT hire this person... And I'm asking aside from the legal reasons of what can and cannot be given in a formal reference check. I'm talking about the informal network that we have in our industry.
The reality is, like it or not, all MTs are not created equal just like all employers are not created equal. And there is no one size fits all company or MT in our industry.
So what makes this different? Why is okay for MTs to blackball a company and not the other way around? I'm not asking for argument, purely curious about your thoughts on this. Thanks.
This sounds pretty standard to me
and not at all unusual for a national to offer.
I have a standard response to that when someone asks me why they have to do that. sm
I work for another MTSO and have worked for 2 others in the past; all have required paperwork faxed out. It is quicker and more reliable than snail mail.
My response is --- if you are complaining this early in your employment, you will probably find something to complain about daily. There are alternatives to faxing, and the main 2 are: You can mail the paperwork back to me; however, I will only hold the job for 24 hours OR you can drive here and hand it to me, which is definitely more expensive than faxing AND you have to deal with traffic in LA.
A fax machine costs $25 now. An all-in-one printer is not much more and you can print pictures on one too!
That's standard for all word processing, not just
Here's explanation: http://spider.georgetowncollege.edu/T3/wsr/csc120/wp1spa97.htm
It's not new and it has nothing to do with MT in particular. You could always get your own accounts and do it however you'd like if you feel you're losing that much money from it, though. It probably doesn't even add up to a whole line per report, as it's not like you're losing a space after every word.
I just do whatever the MTSO wants. If they want 2 spaces, I'll do the 2 spaces. Most places don't even specify, but when they do, it seems they only want the 1 space.
but that is the standard reply. It isn't so much a router
issue as it is a server issue and they way their servers are routed is what one of the tech guys called me. It was a major issue for a lot of MTs, which made it very hard to get lines a few months ago, but supposedly as of January they had resolved the issue, although one of the techs told me it wouldn't be fixed anytime soon because it would require thousands of dollars to upgrade servers.
There is no industry standard for pay dates.
The standard of style at 2 of my jobs want
you to use 2 versus two or II because of consistency. I would say Webmedx is following industry standard. The only time I ever spell it out is if the particular account wants it that way, otherwise I have used the numbers for a long time now. Sorry, to burst your bubble, but Webmedx guidelines are pretty standard in at least my experience.
The industry standard is leaning more......... sm
toward the use of numerals rather than spelled out words as numerals tend to stand out more. The use of Roman numerals is also being phased out, except for things like cancer stages. I don't think Webmedx is cheating anyone out of lines by requiring the use of numerals.
As I said below, not every company is a good fit for ever MT. Why not just let this all go and find a company with which you can be happy?
the normal standard supposedly is sm
1 minute of dictation equals 10 lines. Obviously if its a slow dictator then you make out really good. If its a really fast person, not so good. I worked on the minute basis for several years and did fine.
Given the climate of the way these companies don't want ot pay for spaces, headers, etc it might not be a bad deal anymore. I guess it depends on how fast it takes you to turn around the number of minutes you need to type.
Good luck!
Standard tape transcriber
Hi all! Anyone have, or know where, I can purchase a standard tape transcriber at a decent price?
Yes, check some of the ads - 2-3 CPL for editing is STANDARD now. nm
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Industry Standard Vacation/Sick pay
I am an at-home Transcriptionist for a major hospital system. As of a year ago, we have had our earned vacation/sick pay reduced by 15% of our hourly wage. We were told this is industry standard. Is this correct?
yep, makes the world go 'round...and standard pay go D-O-W-N
Thank-you-very-much!
They do supply standard, but I have connected my IBM keyboard.
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SOP means Standard Operating Procedure.
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Does Proscript pay for standard reports or spaces? NM
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No, Proscript does not pay for standard/normal reports (NM)
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if you want to work for super below industry standard - go for it.
It's great money if you haven't ever had an MT job (EVER!)
sounts like standard MTSO response to me...nm
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Ya know what? I started doing VR about 5 years ago mixed with standard and
really did okay, bout 80% VR. Not sure what it is but lately the reports are coming in such a mess and such bad quality I am now not able to make a decent line count. I believe the push was on and they added facilities way too fast without everything being in place and lots of docs needing to learn how to use the durn thing and the system not used to the dictators (and with some dictators never will) that these accounts are now really so bad MY counts are even way less on VR than they were 5 years ago. The system has to have so many reports in to make the words come up correctly in future reports but is supposed to eventually get used to things. But like I said, way to big a rush and push for VR and I don't believe companies or the system were ready.
BUT the sellers of these systems who make quite the profit don't care and the MTSOs certainly don't care that we make such a pittance being paid by the line or if we can pay our bills and probably never will. As MTs, we are certainly taking the brunt of all of this. Pathetic. Wonder what they will all do when more and more MTs move on to a job they can make a living at and the hospitals tell them they can't offshore???
Level 4 is pretty standard stuff, I would say.
Not difficult. WTs like the OP said.
Have done QA and trained folks and will tell you, not all experience is industry standard
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