Deenibeeni: This you should know as an MT regarding tonsils!

Posted By: brook on 2009-02-08
In Reply to: Then why tonsils, appendix?? - Nola

Tonsils have a very important function in the immune defence before they get infected.

When they get grossly infected, they do more harm than good and are removed.

Did nobody tell you this?

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Do you think infant male circumcision is child abuse? - nm
- Do you think that piercing a child's ears is abuse? - Kendra
- As a woman married to a noncirc and - the mother of 3 circs -- here's my 2 cents
  - ABSOLUTELY! They do it WITHOUT anesthetic sm - Mom of 2 uncircs
    - www.nocirc.org - YES
  - I think in the past... - MT
    - 2 of the 3 were covered by insurance - the mother of 3 circs -- here's my 2 cents
- I don't think so. I have 2 boys. They have - me
  - Ouch, at 50-y/o....I'd run away screaming - sm - XXX
- yes, but out of ignorance, not malice - just like the western world is all up in arms abou
  - look up the lower down posts, this is a totally different story..nm - x
- no, not child abuse. what will they think of next? SM - anon
  - what do you mean by 'think of next?' This - brook
- There is a religious not hygenic reason for circumcision. - Golda
  - the bris - sadie
  - Thanks for explaining this. Do you kinow if this holds also true for Muslims? nm - x
    - Mulisms and circumcision - Golda
      - My dh is from Morocco... - MT
        Aren't Muslim babies in theArab countries cicumcised before they leave the hospital? nm - x
        Some are, just like anywhere... - MT
      - Thank you again for explaining, interesting and inspiring..nm - x
- Use some common sense - Give me a break
  - You're funny... - MT
- It's a personal decision... - MT
  - How old is your child? - jc
    - Old enough to know... - MT
      - so I take it he's not sexually mature yet? - he may not be so thankful to you
        Quit assuming... - MT
        no kidding - deenibeeni
- I personally don't know the statistics, but - - NYMT
  - why not cut off the ears at birth to prevent - ear infections?
    - Now, that's ridiculous..... - brook
      - and how can it really be compared... - Kendra
  - not being circumcized promotes penile cancer - looks like your god messed up some things
    - Then why is there a higher incidence in the US... - deenibeeni
      - We get it deeni sweetie, you - sm
        No point going to Washington, BabyCakes - deenibeeni
        Baby Cakes, I LOVE it...thanks honey! - sm
        Its not a little piece of skin - read up on it. It plays a lot of important functions. Google it. - nm
        You will have to explain - deenibeeni
    - exactly, and the transmission of STD, - x
      - I would say - deenibeeni
  - Then why tonsils, appendix?? - Nola
    - Deenibeeni: This you should know as an MT regarding tonsils! - brook
      - You need to read my posts more carefully. - deenibeeni
        but they look GROSSSSS EWWW - i would never saddle my child with
        Scary - you gotta be kidding - nm
        let's just say that's one more reason i'm proud - to be an American LOL
        I'm only posting this - deenibeeni
        she is just expressing her feelings, do NOT BASH HER FOR THAT.. - x
        oh yea don't forget the smegma smell - guess that's why the French stink
        Now I know who I'm dealing with - deenibeeni
        RIGHT, LMAO...nm - brook
        Nonsense... - MT
        an uncircumcised penis - reminds me of a dog penis
        Right, but with the foreskin ON, they stink even more,...nm - brook
        You must pick gross men in general... - MT
        I am PRO CIRCUMCISION, so I am NOT A STINKY GIRL, YOU ARE! nm - x
        You're funny... - MT
        true - n/m
    - They were removed because they became INFECTED - deenibeeni
      - Brook - you are the one misinformed - nm
        circumcision, yes or no, definitely yes! - x
        "a little pain" - deenibeeni
        deeni, are you perhaps a man who is lamenting the loss of his foreskin?...nm - hmmm
        no, I'm not a man - deenibeeni
        Just let it go, I say yes to circumcision...nm - x
        uh, I say no. - deenibeeni
        Oy Vey, your poor family! What a meshuga...nm - nm
        I had it with you! What's wrong with you!..see message - x
        There is a growing body of evidence - deenibeeni
        Duh, duh ??? - x
        Risks - deenibeeni
        You are CRAZY. end of discussion, you are in your own....nm - brook
        She is DENSE, don't bother any longer. Like talking to a wall... - nm
        What does being Jewish have to do with it? - deenibeeni
        oh? - sadie
        Jews against circumcision - deenibeeni
        It means your family has to put up with you and I feel sorry for them... - sm
        I would bet a lot of money - deenibeeni
        Oh sweetheart, give it a rest already..we know how perfect you are.. - sm
        "sweetheart" and "honey" - deenibeeni
        sweetie, you are still DENSE...you obviously can't read... - sm
        Uh, no - deenibeeni
        yes, deenibeeni, take a hike or fly a hike, toodle-loo/ nm - x
- Child abuse, hardly - Nola
  - smegma - deenibeeni
    - dear deenibeeni..you are misinformed - brook
      - I did NOT mention in my above post - deenibeeni
        dear deenibeeni, tell your 'wisdom' to - x
        Why deenibeeni is so stubborn - deenibeeni
        Agree with you deenibeeni - we've been conditioned to believe that its good - nm
      - Wrong again - deenibeeni
      - AAP does not agree with you - deenibeeni
  - Yup, Nola is very right about the problems of not circumcising, I held my baby - Cyndiee
    - Nola is very wrong - deenibeeni
      - If I were wrong, you should have told the boys that - Nola
        Well, obviously. For heaven's sake. - deenibeeni
        I don�t read the sites you give as I disagree with you - Nola
        that's enlightened of you - deenibeeni
        Beliefs, those do not even play into any of this warped thread - Nola
        That's not everyone's experience... - MT
      - Deeni, I respect your opinion, but I held both my sons during circumcision......sm - Cyndiee
        20-year old personal clinical experience - deenibeeni
        What the heck? - Nola
        You may find this enlightening - if you really want to be enlightened - nm
        you have no way of knowing - deenibeeni
        LMAO, hahahaha! - queens
        You need to read this and with an open mind - nm
        I'm saying - deenibeeni
        nor can you be certain that there is any effect at all. - Kendra
        It's only a teeny weeny piece of skin, for heaven's sake, get real! nm - x
        Thousands of nerve endings insignificant? - nm
        this is just rationalizing - deenibeeni
        What atrocity? - x
        For those who think the foreskin is useless - nm

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Then why tonsils, appendix??
You can do without those also, born with those but don�t have now. Now why was mine there?????

Deenibeeni, you are right on sm
and the question is...why do you have creditors that have to be paid before you can eat? Is it his high spending habits that got you into this mess? He is starving you because why...you don't make the same money he does??? Toro poo poo!

Email me...we'll find you a better job at the very least. We need to talk and I won't harp on you, I only want to help. I'll pay for the call if you send the number and tell me when you are safe to talk.

Why deenibeeni is so stubborn
*****Because I'm never going to say that child abuse is okay, that's why.

"The majority (of physicians) is pro-circumcision."

*****It is a very slim margin, in this study anyway: 54%, and (notably) most performed by male physicians. Now there's some food for thought.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/101/6/e5

There are males out there who are not so particularly keen about 'cleanliness' and this poses a danger to their female partners.

***This is disgusting. First, what is a woman doing with a man whose personal hygiene is so marginal that she risks disease by sleeping with him?? Simply grotesque.

Do you get it?

*****I get that you think surgery should be used in lieu of education, which is ridiculous.

Some do not even know that they should 'pull back' the foreskin etc.......

***Then give the guy either a Darwin award or some education.

Maybe you should draft a notice to be stuck on each shower..'how to.....'

***It's actually not a bad idea, & would probably spare more than a few infants.

Why are you so stubborn?

****see above.

You should think it over and say
'I screwed up...'

*****I think this sentiment should be reserved for anyone who has ever had their baby boy circumcised.

dear deenibeeni..you are misinformed
Circumcision is, as you mentioned in your above post, very hygenic. By removing the foreskin, a buildup of smegma is prevented. This is the main reason why circumcision is done. It should be actually done right in the first week after birth, because it is least painful when done early. It is done under anesthesia.

Genital mutilation done on women is not only 'cutting off the labia, it includes the removal of the clitoris, the part of the female body that causes foremost orgasm for a woman, causing her to become frigid.

This procedure is still done in some fundamental Muslim countries, but soon it will be forbidden, because this IS abuse.

dear deenibeeni, tell your 'wisdom' to
physicians, the majority is pro-circumcision.

There are males out there who are not so particularly keen about 'cleanliness' and this poses a danger to their female partners. Do you get it?
Some do not even know that they should 'pull back' the foreskin etc.......

Maybe you should draft a notice to be stuck on each shower..'how to.....'

Why are you so stubborn?
You should think it over and say
'I screwed up...'

Hadn't thought about that - thanks, deenibeeni! nm
x

Agree with you deenibeeni - we've been conditioned to believe that its good
There's also the issue of consent. Its an irreversable procedure - what if your son missed having a foreskin? I've read about men having wished that their parents didn't make that decision for them. I don't see a difference between male and female circumcision; its just that we've been conditioned to believe that male circumcision is good. Its just as barbaric and cruel.

Anyone who can make bread for 35 cents/loaf is a wizard in my book, deenibeeni! nm
x

yes, deenibeeni, take a hike or fly a hike, toodle-loo/ nm
nm